[Evergreen-catalogers] RDA search formats

Tue Nov 14 12:12:37 EST 2017

Hi Janet,

We are using a local field for some format filters, including MP3 CDs.  In
these cases, we could not construct a filter based upon elements of the
leader and/or 007 fields.

Beth

On Thu, Nov 9, 2017 at 3:50 PM, Janet Schrader <jschrader at cwmars.org> wrote:

> +1.
>
> These fields can only be used in conjunction with codes in the 008 and
> 007/006 fields.
>
> While on this topic, I'd like to know if anyone has created a format
> filter for MP3 CD audiobooks. The 007 field code for SMD is the same as
> regular CDs. Is there some other code(s) I could use?
>
>
> Thanks,
> Janet
>
> On Thu, Nov 9, 2017 at 1:30 PM, Elaine Hardy <ehardy at georgialibraries.org>
> wrote:
>
>> +1
>>
>>
>>
>> J. Elaine Hardy
>> PINES & Collaborative Projects Manager
>> Georgia Public Library Service/PINES
>> 1800 Century Place, Ste. 150
>> Atlanta, GA 30045
>>
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>>
>> On Thu, Nov 9, 2017 at 10:32 AM, Jane Sandberg <sandbej at linnbenton.edu>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I'd actually hesitate at this proposal, since the 33x terms don't
>>> really make a lot of distinctions that patrons would find helpful, for
>>> example:
>>>
>>> * Large type vs. standard type have the same 33x
>>> * DVD vs. Blu-ray have the same 33x
>>> * These fields are all repeatable.  Sometimes those combinations can
>>> mean that there are multiple parts, sometimes it means that several
>>> formats are incorporated into a single object.  For example, 336$atext
>>> and 336$images could mean a picture book, a graphic novel, a book of
>>> photographs with captions, an archival collection that includes both
>>> pamphlets and paintings, etc.
>>>
>>> I think that having 33x terms in the mix of
>>> what-fields-cause-which-icons is great.  I don't think that they
>>> should ever be used without other MARC fields to determine what icons
>>> display.
>>>
>>> On Wed, Nov 8, 2017 at 12:08 PM, Elaine Hardy
>>> <ehardy at georgialibraries.org> wrote:
>>> > LC has handy tables that link the RDA terms in the MARC 33x fields to
>>> the
>>> > 007 field codes : 007/01 (for 338), Leader/06 codes (for 336) and
>>> 007/00
>>> > (for 337). See http://www.loc.gov/standards/valuelist/index.html. So,
>>> for
>>> > those search filters (and icons) that utilize those 007 codes, if a bib
>>> > record has the 33x fields, those terms and codes could be used instead.
>>> >
>>> > To further specify icons, the 007 field will still need to be used to
>>> > distinguish formats for videorecordings (007/04)
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > J. Elaine Hardy
>>> > PINES & Collaborative Projects Manager
>>> > Georgia Public Library Service/PINES
>>> > 1800 Century Place, Ste. 150
>>> > Atlanta, GA 30045
>>> >
>>> > 404.235.7128 <(404)%20235-7128> Office
>>> > 404.548.4241 <(404)%20548-4241> Cell
>>> > 404.235.7201 <(404)%20235-7201> FAX
>>> >
>>> > On Wed, Nov 8, 2017 at 9:17 AM, Rogan Hamby <
>>> rhamby at equinoxinitiative.org>
>>> > wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >> Good morning.
>>> >>
>>> >> I've started looking at how we can resolve RDA 336/337/338 tags for
>>> search
>>> >> formats.  There has already been community discussion here:
>>> >>
>>> >> https://bugs.launchpad.net/evergreen/+bug/1125621
>>> >>
>>> >> The good news is that we (the Evergreen 'we') already have that data
>>> >> pulled into the database so the next step is to use it.
>>> >>
>>> >> Before the code is written though I think there are some points for
>>> the
>>> >> larger community.  The big picture questions are - What combinations
>>> should
>>> >> map to existing search formats and which might need new ones?  Also, a
>>> >> logistic question - When new ones are needed where will the icons
>>> come from?
>>> >> (I can probably make them if need be.)
>>> >>
>>> >> Additionally, a working practice question.  My instinct (and I think
>>> that
>>> >> of many) is to say the code should basically check to see if there
>>> are RDA
>>> >> values and if so use those and fall back to AACR2.  Are there
>>> scenarios in
>>> >> practice when both should be used?  Following that up, if they do
>>> exist are
>>> >> these common enough / follow standards to any degree that we should
>>> worry
>>> >> about them or are they edge cases?
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> Rogan Hamby
>>> >>
>>> >> Data and Project Analyst
>>> >>
>>> >> Equinox Open Library Initiative
>>> >>
>>> >> phone:  1-877-OPEN-ILS (673-6457)
>>> >>
>>> >> email:  rogan at EquinoxInitiative.org
>>> >>
>>> >> web:  http://EquinoxInitiative.org
>>> >>
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