[Evergreen-catalogers] Angular staff client catalog

Thu Sep 19 08:16:24 EDT 2019

Excellent idea, indeed!  It will be good to revisit the progress with the
Angular staff client for cataloging and to continue to offer feedback using
this launchpad bug.  Thanks to Elizabeth for starting the discussion.  I am
always impressed with how quickly others respond with your own experiences
and expectations.  Hooray for community!  As others said, this is still
very much in development and our input will make a difference.

I will start another email thread to discuss including this topic in an
upcoming Cataloging Working Group meeting.
-- Jennifer

On Thu, Sep 19, 2019 at 7:24 AM Terran McCanna <
tmccanna at georgialibraries.org> wrote:

> I love that idea - this is a great opportunity to really make a difference
> in how usable and how appealing the catalog is for everyone down the line.
>
>
>
> Terran McCanna
> PINES Program Manager
> Georgia Public Library Service
> 2872 Woodcock Blvd, Suite 250
> Atlanta, GA 30341
> 404-235-7138
> tmccanna at georgialibraries.org
>
> On Thu, Sep 19, 2019, 7:13 AM Thomsen, Elizabeth <et at noblenet.org> wrote:
>
>> Thanks, Jane!  I wish I had found that Launchpad bug yesterday -- it
>> helps a lot, especially the screenshots!    I would love it if we could
>> revisit this again at a meeting, maybe we should do this on a regular basis
>> to keep in touch with the progress.
>>
>> On Thu, Sep 19, 2019 at 12:06 AM Jane Sandberg <sandbej at linnbenton.edu>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I'm a fan of the experimental staff catalog.  It has some nice
>>> quality-of-life improvements (like the holdings view, which -- as far
>>> as I'm concerned -- takes the best of the XUL and Web client holdings
>>> views).  And I think there will be more and more of those improvements
>>> as the project progresses.
>>>
>>> Bill Erickson has been adding more and more data to the experimental
>>> catalog lately: https://bugs.launchpad.net/evergreen/+bug/1839670
>>>
>>> I'll also say that Bill has been very receptive to feedback from this
>>> group.  Maybe in an upcoming Cataloging Working Group meeting we could
>>> take a look at the very latest version of the experimental catalog and
>>> put together some feedback about what is missing.
>>>
>>> On Wed, Sep 18, 2019 at 6:16 PM Thomsen, Elizabeth <et at noblenet.org>
>>> wrote:
>>> >
>>> > Thanks, Terran, that's helpful and reassuring.  As proof of concept,
>>> and the way the search elements are displayed and work and all that, it's
>>> fine.  I have no problem with what's there, only what's not there!
>>> >
>>> > On Wed, Sep 18, 2019 at 9:10 PM Terran McCanna <
>>> tmccanna at georgialibraries.org> wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >> I have not had a chance to play with 3.3 or 3.4 yet, but it was my
>>> understanding from Bill's demos earlier this year that he only put enough
>>> content into the initial display so that it could function as a proof of
>>> concept to be sure the core search functions and filters were working
>>> correctly, and that the additional displayed elements were still to be
>>> worked out after that.
>>> >>
>>> >> As for the public and staff catalogs matching or not, I could go
>>> either way as long as all parties are presented with what is most useful to
>>> them. Having a single catalog with select elements hidden/displayed for
>>> each audience is easier to maintain over time. I expect that once the new
>>> staff catalog is fleshed out to everyone's satisfaction, it could then be
>>> re-used in the redo of the public catalog, so we would then be back to
>>> having the same experience in the staff and public catalogs.
>>> >>
>>> >> Terran McCanna
>>> >> PINES Program Manager
>>> >> Georgia Public Library Service
>>> >> 2872 Woodcock Blvd, Suite 250
>>> >> Atlanta, GA 30341
>>> >> 404-235-7138
>>> >> tmccanna at georgialibraries.org
>>> >>
>>> >> On Wed, Sep 18, 2019, 5:04 PM Thomsen, Elizabeth <et at noblenet.org>
>>> wrote:
>>> >>>
>>> >>> How are people feeling about the Angular staff catalog?  Have you
>>> shown it to library staff?  We have 3.3 on a test server and this morning
>>> we turned on the Experimental Catalog to showed to our catalogers for
>>> feedback.  They were really unhappy with it.  They value having the staff
>>> and patron views of the catalog match, and they want to see the full view
>>> of the bibliographic record whether they are determining whether or not the
>>> record is a match for an item they are inputting, or looking at record they
>>> added from a workform or Z39.50 to spot and correct problems.
>>> >>>
>>> >>> The grid only has a few pieces of information from the bibliographic
>>> records that are useful in terms of matching the record to the item in hand
>>> -- the author, the title, the year and the edition statement, if any.  No
>>> format, publisher, description, ISBN, no links to other formats and
>>> editions, no cover image.  I appreciate that they added a link to View in
>>> Catalog, which takes you outside the staff client to the public catalog,
>>> but that seems very cumbersome for something people are going to have to do
>>> for practically every record.  And won't public service people have all the
>>> same problems looking up records for patrons to place holds?
>>> >>>
>>> >>> I understand the need to Angularize this, and appreciate the work
>>> that's gone into it.  There's a lot I like here in terms of the UI, but
>>> with this sparse display of the bib record, it looks like a real step
>>> backward to us.
>>> >>>
>>> >>> --
>>> >>> Elizabeth B. Thomsen
>>> >>> Member Services Manager
>>> >>> NOBLE: North of Boston Library Exchange
>>> >>> Danvers, Mass.
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