[Evergreen-catalogers] Angular staff client catalog

Fri Sep 20 08:24:18 EDT 2019

There are two wiki pages y’all should know about.  I think both could be worth updating.

Bill’s original proposed timeline for moving everything to Angular:
https://wiki.evergreen-ils.org/doku.php?id=dev:browser_staff:angjs_to_ang_migration#migration_timeline_proposal

Bill’s early notes about the Angular Staff Catalog:
https://wiki.evergreen-ils.org/doku.php?id=dev:browser_staff:angular_staff_catalog

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From: Evergreen-catalogers <evergreen-catalogers-bounces at list.evergreen-ils.org> On Behalf Of Jennifer Weston
Sent: Thursday, September 19, 2019 9:50 AM
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Subject: Re: [Evergreen-catalogers] Angular staff client catalog

I'm copying DIG in on this conversation -- so we can collaborate on the idea of creating a "list of bugs showing several other admin screens that are in the process of being Angularized; it would be nice to have that all in one place as kind of a To Do/Done list."

Our groups meet the same week in October so may we can really build momentum here.
Thanks again -
Jennifer

On Thu, Sep 19, 2019 at 9:44 AM Jennifer Weston <jennifer.weston at equinoxinitiative.org<mailto:jennifer.weston at equinoxinitiative.org>> wrote:
I was thinking the same thing.  Thanks for the list, Tiffany.  I'm on it!  I have time carved out tomorrow to work on the CWG wiki and will make this happen.
If anyone else has links they want to share for related bugs, please send them my way.
-- Jennifer

On Thu, Sep 19, 2019 at 9:12 AM Tiffany Little <tlittle at georgialibraries.org<mailto:tlittle at georgialibraries.org>> wrote:
Maybe having a space on the CWG wiki to keep track of the LP bugs? I keep them tagged in my email, so I know I have several of them (although there may be some that I've missed). In no particular order, I know of:

  *   Angular staff catalog post-3.3 omnibus<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__bugs.launchpad.net_evergreen_-2Bbug_1823367&d=DwMFaQ&c=4rZ6NPIETe-LE5i2KBR4rw&r=XMUuJ_zlJ9I1qg9tP7WLhw&m=mXXafsR9xa6faSuMA1xKVorgYIQhPRWVUVtjAXpipgY&s=2mZsyfq2v7gbBUR8stYYZn0f3KjQV_HLxsLeYjtKdn8&e=> (Fix Released) -- Includes links to several other related bugs for the Angular catalog
  *   Angular MARC editor pt.1 -- Flat Text Editor<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__bugs.launchpad.net_evergreen_-2Bbug_1834665&d=DwMFaQ&c=4rZ6NPIETe-LE5i2KBR4rw&r=XMUuJ_zlJ9I1qg9tP7WLhw&m=mXXafsR9xa6faSuMA1xKVorgYIQhPRWVUVtjAXpipgY&s=eUrdxjWAv-v2gkW9BGAd6wRf5j445F2QAZZky9BOEy0&e=> (Fix Released)
  *   Angular Staff Catalog identifier and publication info<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__bugs.launchpad.net_evergreen_-2Bbug_1839670&d=DwMFaQ&c=4rZ6NPIETe-LE5i2KBR4rw&r=XMUuJ_zlJ9I1qg9tP7WLhw&m=mXXafsR9xa6faSuMA1xKVorgYIQhPRWVUVtjAXpipgY&s=vD-21XQs1WNQn-tl6A7X_8JcM-uE3dSOmlkEccaU5qQ&e=> (Fix Released)
  *   Angular catalog holdings view suffers from material icon formatting issue<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__bugs.launchpad.net_evergreen_-2Bbug_1840982&d=DwMFaQ&c=4rZ6NPIETe-LE5i2KBR4rw&r=XMUuJ_zlJ9I1qg9tP7WLhw&m=mXXafsR9xa6faSuMA1xKVorgYIQhPRWVUVtjAXpipgY&s=JlS2kCEmFD52LmUDdsecdRB5MZO0d9Cwtpx5KRQckAg&e=> (pullrequest)
  *   Angular staff catalog recent searches & search templates<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__bugs.launchpad.net_evergreen_-2Bbug_1837478&d=DwMFaQ&c=4rZ6NPIETe-LE5i2KBR4rw&r=XMUuJ_zlJ9I1qg9tP7WLhw&m=mXXafsR9xa6faSuMA1xKVorgYIQhPRWVUVtjAXpipgY&s=QEq7HL0GH9o8QAzxTpxJmFlXJPBbkmjqgV2sbW0YtL4&e=> (Fix Released)
It would also be nice if there was a page on the wiki somewhere about all the pages that have been, need to be, or are in the process of being converted to Angular, along with their applicable LP#s. I have a list of bugs showing several other admin screens that are in the process of being Angularized; it would be nice to have that all in one place as kind of a To Do/Done list.

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On Thu, Sep 19, 2019 at 8:57 AM Thomsen, Elizabeth <et at noblenet.org<mailto:et at noblenet.org>> wrote:
And to keep track of the development!  We could pull together all the Launchpad bugs, make sure they have consistent tags, and track their progress!

I love the idea of having access to the Experimental Catalog in Release 3.3, but as things stand now it might freak some people out (like me!) if we don't have an easy way for people to see the very latest version, at least in screenshots!

On Thu, Sep 19, 2019 at 7:24 AM Terran McCanna <tmccanna at georgialibraries.org<mailto:tmccanna at georgialibraries.org>> wrote:
I love that idea - this is a great opportunity to really make a difference in how usable and how appealing the catalog is for everyone down the line.

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On Thu, Sep 19, 2019, 7:13 AM Thomsen, Elizabeth <et at noblenet.org<mailto:et at noblenet.org>> wrote:
Thanks, Jane!  I wish I had found that Launchpad bug yesterday -- it helps a lot, especially the screenshots!    I would love it if we could revisit this again at a meeting, maybe we should do this on a regular basis to keep in touch with the progress.

On Thu, Sep 19, 2019 at 12:06 AM Jane Sandberg <sandbej at linnbenton.edu<mailto:sandbej at linnbenton.edu>> wrote:
I'm a fan of the experimental staff catalog.  It has some nice
quality-of-life improvements (like the holdings view, which -- as far
as I'm concerned -- takes the best of the XUL and Web client holdings
views).  And I think there will be more and more of those improvements
as the project progresses.

Bill Erickson has been adding more and more data to the experimental
catalog lately: https://bugs.launchpad.net/evergreen/+bug/1839670<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__bugs.launchpad.net_evergreen_-2Bbug_1839670&d=DwMFaQ&c=4rZ6NPIETe-LE5i2KBR4rw&r=XMUuJ_zlJ9I1qg9tP7WLhw&m=mXXafsR9xa6faSuMA1xKVorgYIQhPRWVUVtjAXpipgY&s=vD-21XQs1WNQn-tl6A7X_8JcM-uE3dSOmlkEccaU5qQ&e=>

I'll also say that Bill has been very receptive to feedback from this
group.  Maybe in an upcoming Cataloging Working Group meeting we could
take a look at the very latest version of the experimental catalog and
put together some feedback about what is missing.

On Wed, Sep 18, 2019 at 6:16 PM Thomsen, Elizabeth <et at noblenet.org<mailto:et at noblenet.org>> wrote:
>
> Thanks, Terran, that's helpful and reassuring.  As proof of concept, and the way the search elements are displayed and work and all that, it's fine.  I have no problem with what's there, only what's not there!
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> On Wed, Sep 18, 2019 at 9:10 PM Terran McCanna <tmccanna at georgialibraries.org<mailto:tmccanna at georgialibraries.org>> wrote:
>>
>> I have not had a chance to play with 3.3 or 3.4 yet, but it was my understanding from Bill's demos earlier this year that he only put enough content into the initial display so that it could function as a proof of concept to be sure the core search functions and filters were working correctly, and that the additional displayed elements were still to be worked out after that.
>>
>> As for the public and staff catalogs matching or not, I could go either way as long as all parties are presented with what is most useful to them. Having a single catalog with select elements hidden/displayed for each audience is easier to maintain over time. I expect that once the new staff catalog is fleshed out to everyone's satisfaction, it could then be re-used in the redo of the public catalog, so we would then be back to having the same experience in the staff and public catalogs.
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>> Terran McCanna
>> PINES Program Manager
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>> 2872 Woodcock Blvd, Suite 250
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>> On Wed, Sep 18, 2019, 5:04 PM Thomsen, Elizabeth <et at noblenet.org<mailto:et at noblenet.org>> wrote:
>>>
>>> How are people feeling about the Angular staff catalog?  Have you shown it to library staff?  We have 3.3 on a test server and this morning we turned on the Experimental Catalog to showed to our catalogers for feedback.  They were really unhappy with it.  They value having the staff and patron views of the catalog match, and they want to see the full view of the bibliographic record whether they are determining whether or not the record is a match for an item they are inputting, or looking at record they added from a workform or Z39.50 to spot and correct problems.
>>>
>>> The grid only has a few pieces of information from the bibliographic records that are useful in terms of matching the record to the item in hand -- the author, the title, the year and the edition statement, if any.  No format, publisher, description, ISBN, no links to other formats and editions, no cover image.  I appreciate that they added a link to View in Catalog, which takes you outside the staff client to the public catalog, but that seems very cumbersome for something people are going to have to do for practically every record.  And won't public service people have all the same problems looking up records for patrons to place holds?
>>>
>>> I understand the need to Angularize this, and appreciate the work that's gone into it.  There's a lot I like here in terms of the UI, but with this sparse display of the bib record, it looks like a real step backward to us.
>>>
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