[Evergreen-catalogers] Angular staff client catalog

Jennifer Weston jennifer.weston at equinoxinitiative.org
Fri Sep 20 13:29:02 EDT 2019 

  Thank you, Remington!  This history will be quite helpful.  We'll discuss
in CWG and see how we can help.

Best,
Jennifer

On Fri, Sep 20, 2019 at 8:24 AM Remington Steed <rjs7 at calvin.edu> wrote:

> There are two wiki pages y’all should know about.  I think both could be
> worth updating.
>
>
>
> Bill’s original proposed timeline for moving everything to Angular:
>
>
> https://wiki.evergreen-ils.org/doku.php?id=dev:browser_staff:angjs_to_ang_migration#migration_timeline_proposal
>
>
>
> Bill’s early notes about the Angular Staff Catalog:
>
>
> https://wiki.evergreen-ils.org/doku.php?id=dev:browser_staff:angular_staff_catalog
>
>
>
> Remington
>
>
>
> --
> Remington Steed
> Electronic Resources Specialist
> Hekman Library, Calvin University
> http://library.calvin.edu/
>
>
>
> *From:* Evergreen-catalogers <
> evergreen-catalogers-bounces at list.evergreen-ils.org> *On Behalf Of *Jennifer
> Weston
> *Sent:* Thursday, September 19, 2019 9:50 AM
> *To:* Evergreen Community Catalogers <
> evergreen-catalogers at list.evergreen-ils.org>;
> open-ils-documentation at list.georgialibraries.org
> *Subject:* Re: [Evergreen-catalogers] Angular staff client catalog
>
>
>
> I'm copying DIG in on this conversation -- so we can collaborate on the
> idea of creating a "list of bugs showing several other admin screens that
> are in the process of being Angularized; it would be nice to have that all
> in one place as kind of a To Do/Done list."
>
>
>
> Our groups meet the same week in October so may we can really build
> momentum here.
>
> Thanks again -
>
> Jennifer
>
>
>
>
>
> On Thu, Sep 19, 2019 at 9:44 AM Jennifer Weston <
> jennifer.weston at equinoxinitiative.org> wrote:
>
> I was thinking the same thing.  Thanks for the list, Tiffany.  I'm on it!
> I have time carved out tomorrow to work on the CWG wiki and will make this
> happen.
>
> If anyone else has links they want to share for related bugs, please send
> them my way.
>
> -- Jennifer
>
>
>
> On Thu, Sep 19, 2019 at 9:12 AM Tiffany Little <
> tlittle at georgialibraries.org> wrote:
>
> Maybe having a space on the CWG wiki to keep track of the LP bugs? I keep
> them tagged in my email, so I know I have several of them (although there
> may be some that I've missed). In no particular order, I know of:
>
>
>
>    - Angular staff catalog post-3.3 omnibus
>    <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__bugs.launchpad.net_evergreen_-2Bbug_1823367&d=DwMFaQ&c=4rZ6NPIETe-LE5i2KBR4rw&r=XMUuJ_zlJ9I1qg9tP7WLhw&m=mXXafsR9xa6faSuMA1xKVorgYIQhPRWVUVtjAXpipgY&s=2mZsyfq2v7gbBUR8stYYZn0f3KjQV_HLxsLeYjtKdn8&e=>
>    (Fix Released) -- Includes links to several other related bugs for the
>    Angular catalog
>    - Angular MARC editor pt.1 -- Flat Text Editor
>    <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__bugs.launchpad.net_evergreen_-2Bbug_1834665&d=DwMFaQ&c=4rZ6NPIETe-LE5i2KBR4rw&r=XMUuJ_zlJ9I1qg9tP7WLhw&m=mXXafsR9xa6faSuMA1xKVorgYIQhPRWVUVtjAXpipgY&s=eUrdxjWAv-v2gkW9BGAd6wRf5j445F2QAZZky9BOEy0&e=>
>    (Fix Released)
>    - Angular Staff Catalog identifier and publication info
>    <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__bugs.launchpad.net_evergreen_-2Bbug_1839670&d=DwMFaQ&c=4rZ6NPIETe-LE5i2KBR4rw&r=XMUuJ_zlJ9I1qg9tP7WLhw&m=mXXafsR9xa6faSuMA1xKVorgYIQhPRWVUVtjAXpipgY&s=vD-21XQs1WNQn-tl6A7X_8JcM-uE3dSOmlkEccaU5qQ&e=>
>    (Fix Released)
>    - Angular catalog holdings view suffers from material icon formatting
>    issue
>    <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__bugs.launchpad.net_evergreen_-2Bbug_1840982&d=DwMFaQ&c=4rZ6NPIETe-LE5i2KBR4rw&r=XMUuJ_zlJ9I1qg9tP7WLhw&m=mXXafsR9xa6faSuMA1xKVorgYIQhPRWVUVtjAXpipgY&s=JlS2kCEmFD52LmUDdsecdRB5MZO0d9Cwtpx5KRQckAg&e=>
>    (pullrequest)
>    - Angular staff catalog recent searches & search templates
>    <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__bugs.launchpad.net_evergreen_-2Bbug_1837478&d=DwMFaQ&c=4rZ6NPIETe-LE5i2KBR4rw&r=XMUuJ_zlJ9I1qg9tP7WLhw&m=mXXafsR9xa6faSuMA1xKVorgYIQhPRWVUVtjAXpipgY&s=QEq7HL0GH9o8QAzxTpxJmFlXJPBbkmjqgV2sbW0YtL4&e=>
>    (Fix Released)
>
> It would also be nice if there was a page on the wiki somewhere about all
> the pages that have been, need to be, or are in the process of being
> converted to Angular, along with their applicable LP#s. I have a list of
> bugs showing several other admin screens that are in the process of being
> Angularized; it would be nice to have that all in one place as kind of a To
> Do/Done list.
>
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> On Thu, Sep 19, 2019 at 8:57 AM Thomsen, Elizabeth <et at noblenet.org>
> wrote:
>
> And to keep track of the development!  We could pull together all the
> Launchpad bugs, make sure they have consistent tags, and track their
> progress!
>
>
>
> I love the idea of having access to the Experimental Catalog in Release
> 3.3, but as things stand now it might freak some people out (like me!) if
> we don't have an easy way for people to see the very latest version, at
> least in screenshots!
>
>
>
> On Thu, Sep 19, 2019 at 7:24 AM Terran McCanna <
> tmccanna at georgialibraries.org> wrote:
>
> I love that idea - this is a great opportunity to really make a difference
> in how usable and how appealing the catalog is for everyone down the line.
>
>
>
>
>
> Terran McCanna
> PINES Program Manager
> Georgia Public Library Service
> 2872 Woodcock Blvd, Suite 250
> Atlanta, GA 30341
> 404-235-7138
> tmccanna at georgialibraries.org
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>
>
> On Thu, Sep 19, 2019, 7:13 AM Thomsen, Elizabeth <et at noblenet.org> wrote:
>
> Thanks, Jane!  I wish I had found that Launchpad bug yesterday -- it helps
> a lot, especially the screenshots!    I would love it if we could revisit
> this again at a meeting, maybe we should do this on a regular basis to keep
> in touch with the progress.
>
>
>
> On Thu, Sep 19, 2019 at 12:06 AM Jane Sandberg <sandbej at linnbenton.edu>
> wrote:
>
> I'm a fan of the experimental staff catalog.  It has some nice
> quality-of-life improvements (like the holdings view, which -- as far
> as I'm concerned -- takes the best of the XUL and Web client holdings
> views).  And I think there will be more and more of those improvements
> as the project progresses.
>
> Bill Erickson has been adding more and more data to the experimental
> catalog lately: https://bugs.launchpad.net/evergreen/+bug/1839670
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> I'll also say that Bill has been very receptive to feedback from this
> group.  Maybe in an upcoming Cataloging Working Group meeting we could
> take a look at the very latest version of the experimental catalog and
> put together some feedback about what is missing.
>
> On Wed, Sep 18, 2019 at 6:16 PM Thomsen, Elizabeth <et at noblenet.org>
> wrote:
> >
> > Thanks, Terran, that's helpful and reassuring.  As proof of concept, and
> the way the search elements are displayed and work and all that, it's
> fine.  I have no problem with what's there, only what's not there!
> >
> > On Wed, Sep 18, 2019 at 9:10 PM Terran McCanna <
> tmccanna at georgialibraries.org> wrote:
> >>
> >> I have not had a chance to play with 3.3 or 3.4 yet, but it was my
> understanding from Bill's demos earlier this year that he only put enough
> content into the initial display so that it could function as a proof of
> concept to be sure the core search functions and filters were working
> correctly, and that the additional displayed elements were still to be
> worked out after that.
> >>
> >> As for the public and staff catalogs matching or not, I could go either
> way as long as all parties are presented with what is most useful to them.
> Having a single catalog with select elements hidden/displayed for each
> audience is easier to maintain over time. I expect that once the new staff
> catalog is fleshed out to everyone's satisfaction, it could then be re-used
> in the redo of the public catalog, so we would then be back to having the
> same experience in the staff and public catalogs.
> >>
> >> Terran McCanna
> >> PINES Program Manager
> >> Georgia Public Library Service
> >> 2872 Woodcock Blvd, Suite 250
> >> Atlanta, GA 30341
> >> 404-235-7138
> >> tmccanna at georgialibraries.org
> >>
> >> On Wed, Sep 18, 2019, 5:04 PM Thomsen, Elizabeth <et at noblenet.org>
> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> How are people feeling about the Angular staff catalog?  Have you
> shown it to library staff?  We have 3.3 on a test server and this morning
> we turned on the Experimental Catalog to showed to our catalogers for
> feedback.  They were really unhappy with it.  They value having the staff
> and patron views of the catalog match, and they want to see the full view
> of the bibliographic record whether they are determining whether or not the
> record is a match for an item they are inputting, or looking at record they
> added from a workform or Z39.50 to spot and correct problems.
> >>>
> >>> The grid only has a few pieces of information from the bibliographic
> records that are useful in terms of matching the record to the item in hand
> -- the author, the title, the year and the edition statement, if any.  No
> format, publisher, description, ISBN, no links to other formats and
> editions, no cover image.  I appreciate that they added a link to View in
> Catalog, which takes you outside the staff client to the public catalog,
> but that seems very cumbersome for something people are going to have to do
> for practically every record.  And won't public service people have all the
> same problems looking up records for patrons to place holds?
> >>>
> >>> I understand the need to Angularize this, and appreciate the work
> that's gone into it.  There's a lot I like here in terms of the UI, but
> with this sparse display of the bib record, it looks like a real step
> backward to us.
> >>>
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