[Evergreen-catalogers] Setting to generate an alternate TCN when importing a z39.50

Mon Feb 27 08:34:48 EST 2023

Hi everyone,

Thanks for all your responses. To give context and answer Elaine's first question, our situation is similar to how Sarah explained it: as one of our special collections is dedicated to works from Prince Edward Island-based creators, our options for sources from Z39.50 can be limited -- in the case that was brought to my attention, the only option was the provincial public library service. So as Sarah said, we're being left with no choice but to import the record with a non-OCLC TCN, which of course in this case was a duplicate of one we already had in our catalogue.

As I really only have experience with 3.8.0, I wish I could speak more confidently about features that existed in older editions -- I have to take everyone's word about past functionality and that's a challenge when memories conflict. As I indicated in the Launchpad report, the staff member who brought this to my attention recalls a pop-up with a checkmark box to allow for adding an alternate TCN -- perhaps that's being conflated with "Here's a flat text editor ready to go to make some quick changes", maybe the functionality has changed repeatedly from version to version.

Thank you, Andrea, for the advice and the warning about the "use bibid as TCN" flag; not sure if I'll implement that, but that's useful to tuck into my back pocket.

Mackenzie Johnson, MLIS
(he/his/him)
Metadata Librarian
University of Prince Edward Island
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   1. Re: Setting to generate an alternate TCN when importing a
      z39.50 (Andrea Buntz Neiman)

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Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2023 13:48:27 -0500
From: Andrea Buntz Neiman <abneiman at equinoxoli.org>
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Hi all,

There is a global flag: cat.bib.use_id_for_tcn (Cat: Use Internal ID for
TCN Value) that will use the Evergreen Bib ID as the TCN.

Since the Evergreen bib ID must be unique, this avoids the collision issue
with duplicate TCNs; but it doesn't as far as I know prompt for alternate
TCN upon import, it just imports the record and assigns the bib ID as the
TCN.

Since it's a global flag, it also applies, well, globally - so proceed with
caution.

ABN

On Fri, Feb 24, 2023 at 1:40 PM Elaine Hardy via Evergreen-catalogers <
evergreen-catalogers at list.evergreen-ils.org> wrote:

> Thanks for the explanation!
>
> I am so grateful we have the privilege of having a single source for our
> bib records.
>
> J. Elaine Hardy, PINES and Collaborative Projects Manager
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> On Fri, Feb 24, 2023 at 1:16 PM Sarah Childs <sarahc at hmmpl.org> wrote:
>
>> Elaine, for libraries that import from multiple sources, with non-OCLC
>> TCNs, you can have two totally different records with the same TCN. Imagine
>> you couldn't import a record because the Evergreen database ID conflicted
>> with a database ID from a different system.
>>
>> I don't recall a feature where you could automatically generate a TCN
>> (maybe there was something like that with batch import?)  But there were
>> previous versions where you could edit the existing TCN in the flat text
>> editor, which was really handy when you run into this problem.
>>
>> On Fri, Feb 24, 2023 at 12:58 PM Elaine Hardy via Evergreen-catalogers <
>> evergreen-catalogers at list.evergreen-ils.org> wrote:
>>
>>> I don't recall this "feature".
>>>
>>> Why would you add a duplicate record to your database?
>>>
>>> J. Elaine Hardy, PINES and Collaborative Projects Manager
>>> ------------------------------
>>>
>>> Georgia Public Library Service
>>>
>>> 2872 Woodcock Blvd., Suite 250 | Atlanta, GA 30341
>>>
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>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, Feb 24, 2023 at 10:42 AM Mackenzie Johnson via
>>> Evergreen-catalogers <evergreen-catalogers at list.evergreen-ils.org>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi everyone,
>>>>
>>>> One of the staff in my unit has had an issue with z39.50 imports that
>>>> match against a pre-existing TCN (and not attempting a merge/overlay), as
>>>> I've documented on Launchpad here:
>>>> https://bugs.launchpad.net/evergreen/+bug/2008488
>>>>
>>>> As being provided an option to automatically generate a TCN when
>>>> otherwise faced with a match apparently used to be a feature, I am
>>>> wondering if it is possible that this functionality is hiding behind a
>>>> setting somewhere -- I was looking in the documentation and couldn't really
>>>> find anything, but maybe there's somebody out there who is using 3.8.0 and
>>>> is still able to use this functionality when importing z39.50 records.
>>>>
>>>> Regards,
>>>>
>>>> Mackenzie Johnson, MLIS
>>>> (he/his/him)
>>>> Metadata Librarian
>>>> University of Prince Edward Island
>>>> Email: mtjohnson at upei.ca
>>>> Phone: 902-620-5290
>>>> ORCID: 0000-0002-9358-5081
>>>> Book an appointment with YouCanBookMe
>>>> <https://mackenziejohnson.youcanbook.me>
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