[Evergreen-general] OPAC Request a Library Card Form

Scott Tracey stracey at wlaf.lib.in.us
Fri Oct 9 13:14:59 EDT 2020


Jen,

Does this auto populate the Evergreen request form?

Scott Tracey

Assistant Director
West Lafayette Public Library
208 West Columbia Street
West Lafayette, IN 47906
(765) 743-2261
stracey at wlaf.lib.in.us

On Fri, Oct 9, 2020, 1:05 PM Diane Disbro <ddisbro at scenicregional.org>
wrote:

> Wow! This is great! You can issue a full-service card since you have ID
> verification. We issue Internet Only cards through our online registration
> form.
>
> Diane Disbro
> Pronouns: she/her
> Circulation Coordinator
> Scenic Regional Library
> 251 Union Plaza Drive
> Union, MO     63084
> (636) 583-0652 ext. 110
> ddisbro at scenicregional.org
>
>
>
>
>
> On Fri, Oct 9, 2020 at 9:59 AM Jen VanderHeide <jvanderh at grpl.org> wrote:
>
>> Not sure how helpful this is, but we ended up building an online form
>> that allows us to capture the cosigner information:
>> https://www.grpl.org/get-a-card/
>>
>> One of the nice features of the form is that it allows a co-signer to
>> register for multiple juvenile cards at once. It also allows users to
>> upload identity and address documents so that we can then issue and mail
>> the cards.
>>
>> Jen
>>
>> --
>> *Jen Vander Heide*
>> *Circulation Services Supervisor*
>> Grand Rapids Public Library
>> Main Library | 111 Library St NE | 49503
>> 616-988-5402 x5452 <16169885402,5452>
>> www.grpl.org
>> On 10/8/2020 7:33 PM, Laura Burk wrote:
>>
>> We use 13. I think it's based more on the rules of internet marketing to
>> kids under 13 (who aren't even supposed to have email addresses). We let
>> 13+ get cards for themselves in person as well.
>> (Public library here)
>>
>> Laura
>>
>> On Thu, Oct 8, 2020, 6:56 PM Scott Tracey <stracey at wlaf.lib.in.us> wrote:
>>
>>> I thought it was under 18?
>>>
>>> Scott Tracey
>>>
>>> Assistant Director
>>> West Lafayette Public Library
>>> 208 West Columbia Street
>>> West Lafayette, IN 47906
>>> (765) 743-2261
>>> stracey at wlaf.lib.in.us
>>>
>>> On Thu, Oct 8, 2020, 6:43 PM Diane Disbro <ddisbro at scenicregional.org>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> In our public library district, parents must apply for cards for
>>>> children under age sixteen. Anyone under age sixteen cannot use our online
>>>> registration since we can't verify parental permission (and financial
>>>> responsibility).
>>>>
>>>> Diane Disbro
>>>> Pronouns: she/her
>>>> Circulation Coordinator
>>>> Scenic Regional Library
>>>> 251 Union Plaza Drive
>>>> Union, MO     63084
>>>> (636) 583-0652 ext. 110
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Oct 8, 2020, 4:09 PM Patrick, Irene <irene.patrick at ncdcr.gov>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> We've got a question.  We've been using the Request a Library Card
>>>>> form in the Evergreen OPAC.  We have customized it a bit.  I recently
>>>>> received a question about adding the Parent/Guardian field to the
>>>>> registration form.  Apparently there is a new project that will be
>>>>> happening in our department, and staff are expecting an influx of
>>>>> registrations for juveniles.  So they wanted to include the Parent/Guardian
>>>>> field on the online registration.
>>>>>
>>>>> I asked our consortium if they could add this field to our form, and
>>>>> after investigating, they reported that they could not do this.  Their
>>>>> explanation:
>>>>> "We tried adding that field to your registration page on the
>>>>> development version of your site, but the change caused a system failure
>>>>> when we tried to create a patron. We looked into the reason why we were
>>>>> unable to add this field and here's what we came up with:
>>>>>
>>>>> When someone goes to register a card through this interface, the
>>>>> results are sent to a database table called "User Stage". This table
>>>>> closely mirrors the "User" table so that when a staff member registers the
>>>>> "User Stage", the data is dumped directly from this table into the "User"
>>>>> table. However, updates to the "User" table don't always make it onto "User
>>>>> Stage", and that is the case with the guardian field. The only way to get
>>>>> this to work properly would be to change the schema of the database to add
>>>>> this piece of data on the "User Stage" table. "
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> This is surprising to us.  We are not a public library, and have had
>>>>> few requests to register juveniles so far.  But since Evergreen was
>>>>> designed for public libraries, we were quite surprised to find that we
>>>>> can't easily add the Parent/Guardian field to the OPAC registration form.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I checked Launchpad and it looks like it has already been listed as a
>>>>> bug (https://bugs.launchpad.net/evergreen/+bug/1897103), although
>>>>> there's not much heat on it yet.  Is this really not a problem for most
>>>>> public libraries?  How do you all deal with the problem?  When registering
>>>>> juveniles, do they all have to use an offline form to register?
>>>>>
>>>>> *Irene Patrick*
>>>>> Library & Information Management Systems Librarian
>>>>> State Library of North Carolina
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>> *Circulation Services Supervisor*
>> Grand Rapids Public Library
>> Main Library | 111 Library St NE | 49503
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