[evergreen-outreach] proofing copy three

Thu Apr 12 07:41:35 EDT 2018

OK, I resorted to directly editing the XML save file to start fixing
problems and rip out the fonts it added and changed throughout the document
in places that hadn't even been touched by when it started doing that.  I
also discovered while doing this that it's _far_ easier to directly edit
the XML to add colors to the palette than it is to actually use the
software for it.  So, proofing draft 4 is underway.

On Wed, Apr 11, 2018 at 3:42 PM, Ruth Frasur <director at hagerstownlibrary.org
> wrote:

> Yeah, I wondered if it wasn't a Scribus "speciality (purposeful
> misspelling)."
>
> On Wed, Apr 11, 2018 at 3:39 PM, Rogan Hamby <rogan.hamby at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> I shall have to look at this later / tomorrow more to break down the
>> fonts but regarding number of fonts there should only be two.  Scribus ....
>> yeah, it's special in how it handles fonts, at least on Mac.
>>
>> On Wed, Apr 11, 2018 at 3:14 PM, Ruth Frasur <
>> director at hagerstownlibrary.org> wrote:
>>
>>> My comments are as follows, and with deep recognition that you've been
>>> working a LOT and this makes me feel nit picky.
>>> 1.  There seem to be a lot of fonts.  I wouldn't say it's weirdness, but
>>> a lot.  Most notably, to my mind, are the two text areas on the last page.
>>> My eye expected them to be what seems to be the standard san serif font
>>> throughout, but it's not.
>>> 2.  The logo on the back page seems like it's a little close on the left
>>> hand side.
>>> 3.  On page 9, there are essentially 6 colors ranging from green-blue to
>>> fluorescent green.  That's a lot of green.  Grant, we're Evergreen.
>>> 4.  The headers on pages 7 & 8 are off.  The text seems too close to the
>>> horizontal edge.  On pg. 8, too close to the vertical edge.
>>> 5.  The Kentucky collage on pg. 6 is awesome.
>>> 6.  On the acknowledgements page, everyone else is a proofreader but I'm
>>> proofreading.
>>> 7.  On the center teal bar on the acknowledgements page, the white text
>>> is off vertical center.
>>>
>>> Enough nit picking for me.  I didn't notice any glaring grammatical or
>>> spelling errors.
>>>
>>> On Wed, Apr 11, 2018 at 2:54 PM, Rogan Hamby <rogan.hamby at gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> OK, clearly I missed my self imposed deadline of 2 pm.  There was
>>>> enough feedback that I couldn't get it all in plus the things I noticed.
>>>> But thanks to the wonders of modern technology and mobile hotspots on
>>>> phones I've continued to plug away at it.
>>>>
>>>> All of this is relevant because with my laptop screen but without
>>>> additional monitors so it's hard to jump between all the additional windows
>>>> to track font changes and such but I _think_ I've gotten the fonts
>>>> standardized.  Another pass will be needed.  If you still see font
>>>> weirdness please don't hesitate to say something.  How Scribus handles
>>>> fonts .... well, let's just say it's not intuitive.  I have unkind
>>>> adjectives in mind but it is at least consistent so I can work around it
>>>> even if it makes absolutely no sense why it's doing it in the first place.
>>>> And I'm thinking the manual editing of the XML I did at the beginning may
>>>> be needed again.  Anyway....
>>>>
>>>> I'm still finding some small layout tweaks.  You may notice them.  I
>>>> haven't logged them as everyone else has been so kind to do.
>>>>
>>>> Uh..... I have a lot of thoughts but time is short and I don't remember
>>>> most of them.  But I think all the changes are in.  I do however want to
>>>> highlight something that has been driving me nuts and that Andrea
>>>> mentioned: kerning.
>>>>
>>>> I think some of the text flows look ... not good.  Scribus does not
>>>> have smart kerning like InDesign or Quark or ... other modern commercial
>>>> software layout tools.  For the most part Scribus has been decent but when
>>>> it fails it really fails.  We could just justify everything to both sides
>>>> like a newspaper but that would look just as bad just different.  The thing
>>>> about kerning is that it's time consuming to do manually and small text
>>>> changes can make it all mute so I'm not going to tackle it until I feel
>>>> sure text changes aren't incoming and even then I'm not sure I'll have time
>>>> to really go through it all.
>>>>
>>>> That will be tomorrow.
>>>>
>>>>  Proofing copy 3 is attached.
>>>>
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>>>
>>>
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>>> Library
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>>
>>
>
>
> --
> Ruth Frasur
> Director of the Historic(ally Awesome) Hagerstown - Jefferson Township
> Library
> 10 W. College Street
> <https://maps.google.com/?q=10+W.+College+Street&entry=gmail&source=g> in
> Hagerstown, Indiana (47346)
> p (765) 489-5632; f (765) 489-5808
>
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> Page <http://facebook.com/hjtplibrary>,  and The Nettle Creek Players
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