[evergreen-outreach] Hatch Video

Gina Monti gmonti at biblio.org
Tue Jan 5 11:17:02 EST 2021 

Hi Everyone,

I wanted to get some thoughts on the previous video I sent.  If that's all
fine, I'll edit this for upload and will do a similar one for Firefox.

On Thu, Dec 17, 2020 at 2:01 PM Gina Monti <gmonti at biblio.org> wrote:

> Jason,
>
> I actually was able to get it to pre-install so I tried it out a couple of
> times after and it's kind of hit or miss.  I addressed both methods in this
> next draft.
>
>
> https://drive.google.com/file/d/1FiyHaSvYLc2cw_pQtu2_As6u37RI9CCN/view?usp=sharing
>
> On Thu, Dec 17, 2020 at 10:42 AM Gina Monti <gmonti at biblio.org> wrote:
>
>> I wouldn't be surprised with the recent Chrome update.  I know certain
>> libraries were reporting issues printing after the fact.
>>
>> I could mention restarting then showing the manual extension installation
>> if it doesn't work.  I'll also reshoot it without saving the settings to
>> local Hatch storage.
>>
>> Thank you for your comments, Jason!
>>
>> On Thu, Dec 17, 2020, 10:37 AM Jason Boyer <jboyer at equinoxinitiative.org>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Shoot. Ok, I’ll look into that to see if something changed. Could be
>>> Windows 10, could be Chrome, etc.
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>>
>>> Jason
>>>
>>> --
>>> Jason Boyer
>>> Senior System Administrator
>>> Equinox Open Library Initiative
>>> phone:  +1 (877) Open-ILS (673-6457)
>>> email:  JBoyer at EquinoxInitiative.org <JBoyer at EquinoxInitiative.org>
>>> web:  https://EquinoxInitiative.org/
>>>
>>> On Dec 17, 2020, at 10:32 AM, Gina Monti <gmonti at biblio.org> wrote:
>>>
>>> I tried the pre-installation process you suggested and I couldn't get
>>> the extension to show up in my browser.  I don't know if anyone else has
>>> this same issue.
>>>
>>> On Wed, Dec 16, 2020 at 2:03 PM Jason Boyer <
>>> jboyer at equinoxinitiative.org> wrote:
>>>
>>>> One thing that you might consider for the Chrome video (because this
>>>> doesn’t apply to FF and can’t for the foreseeable future) is that the Hatch
>>>> Installer downloaded from evergreen-ils.org will try to pre-install
>>>> the Chrome extension so you should be able to just download and run that
>>>> installer, (possibly) restart Chrome, and go.
>>>>
>>>> If you don’t want to have that much variance between the videos though
>>>> that’s understandable.
>>>>
>>>> Also, re: storing settings in Hatch, I would suggest saying explicitly
>>>> not to do it. It’s already deprecated and db-based settings have completely
>>>> replaced it with a more reliable mechanism so if it hasn’t been enabled in
>>>> the past it should not be. If you wanted to go over how to disable it
>>>> that’s just clicking the “Copy Hatch Settings to Local Storage” button and
>>>> then un-checking the Store Local Settings in Hatch box.
>>>>
>>>> Watching you explain the various pieces makes me wonder if we might
>>>> have made a mistake by not giving one of the two aspects a different name.
>>>>
>>>> Jason
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Jason Boyer
>>>> Senior System Administrator
>>>> Equinox Open Library Initiative
>>>> phone:  +1 (877) Open-ILS (673-6457)
>>>> email:  JBoyer at EquinoxInitiative.org <JBoyer at EquinoxInitiative.org>
>>>> web:  https://EquinoxInitiative.org/ <https://equinoxinitiative.org/>
>>>>
>>>> On Dec 14, 2020, at 3:20 PM, Gina Monti <gmonti at biblio.org> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hi Everyone,
>>>>
>>>> Here's a draft of what I have for Chrome.  Let me know what needs
>>>> fixing/suggestions and I'll reshoot.  It does come off a little loud so you
>>>> may want to turn your volume down.  That'll get fixed in the final product.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> https://drive.google.com/file/d/1bvaSLkw_5IRnFKPFr1QeOPUnhARKOR7R/view?usp=sharing
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, Dec 11, 2020 at 1:33 PM Gina Monti <gmonti at biblio.org> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I used a headset.  I think what I'll do is try another recorder to
>>>>> make sure the issue isn't the one screen recorder I have auto-selecting my
>>>>> internal microphone on my computer.
>>>>>
>>>>> On Fri, Dec 11, 2020 at 1:09 PM <rogan.hamby at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> I think that all sounds good.  In regards to your microphone, is this
>>>>>> a built in mic on a setup or an external mic?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Wed, Dec 9, 2020 at 1:10 PM Gina Monti <gmonti at biblio.org> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Greetings Everyone,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I'm working on the Hatch video and filmed a very rough draft but I'm
>>>>>>> having issues with my microphone coming out echo-y so I'm working on fixing
>>>>>>> that if possible.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> What I have in terms of the procedure for the Chrome version is this:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 1) Downloading the 0.3.2 Hatch version via the Evergreen website.
>>>>>>> 2) Adding the extension on Chrome Web Store.
>>>>>>> 3) Implementing Hatch with "Print/Storage Services with Hatch"
>>>>>>> 4) Mentioned to go to Print Settings and Templates for management
>>>>>>> and Hatch saving those locally to the browser
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> In addition, I showed where extensions are managed towards the
>>>>>>> beginning during the intro.  What else needs to be added to this?  I know I
>>>>>>> asked about showing a print job example, but I don't have a printer with me
>>>>>>> so I'm unsure how effective/necessary that is.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> If anything needs to be added to this, let me know.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Otherwise, if I can't solve the issue with my microphone, what would
>>>>>>> be advisable in terms of audio besides purchasing new equipment entirely?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Thu, Dec 3, 2020 at 2:02 PM Jason Boyer <
>>>>>>> jboyer at equinoxinitiative.org> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> > Besides anything else you think should be added, I want to know
>>>>>>>> how I should approach the "save local settings in hatch" bit because I know
>>>>>>>> libraries report issues like white screens.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> It should be approached as if it were a wild animal, eager to chew
>>>>>>>> on fingers. :-) That feature is already deprecated and will be completely
>>>>>>>> removed soon (probably in 3.7).
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Something that might not be immediately obvious but is *very* nice
>>>>>>>> about the latest version of Hatch when used with Evergreen 3.4+ is that
>>>>>>>> Hatch will always store the workstation registration(s) locally so you’re
>>>>>>>> able to totally wipe your browser’s history without having to re-register
>>>>>>>> all of the workstations. That feature might drive adoption almost as much
>>>>>>>> as printing at some locations.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Jason
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>> Jason Boyer
>>>>>>>> Senior System Administrator
>>>>>>>> Equinox Open Library Initiative
>>>>>>>> phone:  +1 (877) Open-ILS (673-6457)
>>>>>>>> email:  JBoyer at EquinoxInitiative.org <JBoyer at EquinoxInitiative.org>
>>>>>>>> web:  https://EquinoxInitiative.org/
>>>>>>>> <https://equinoxinitiative.org/>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> > On Dec 3, 2020, at 11:25 AM, Gina Monti <gmonti at biblio.org>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>> > Hello Everyone,
>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>> > Thank you for the opportunity to work on this project.  I wanted
>>>>>>>> to ask for some guidance on the requirements of what should be shown in the
>>>>>>>> video.  What I have so far is:
>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>> > -Locating the browser extension
>>>>>>>> > -Downloading the raw program and installing
>>>>>>>> > -Activating through Evergreen
>>>>>>>> > -Showing an example of saving a print template through Hatch and
>>>>>>>> executing an example of a printout
>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>> > I will be showing this on our 3.5 test system and download the
>>>>>>>> latest 0.3.2 version.
>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>> > Besides anything else you think should be added, I want to know
>>>>>>>> how I should approach the "save local settings in hatch" bit because I know
>>>>>>>> libraries report issues like white screens.  For now I'm just going to
>>>>>>>> check off "Use Hatch for Printing" under Hatch settings and put a blurb
>>>>>>>> advising against the other checkboxes.
>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>> > Thanks for your time and collaboration!
>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>> > --
>>>>>>>> > Gina Monti
>>>>>>>> > Evergreen Systems Specialist
>>>>>>>> > Bibliomation, Inc.
>>>>>>>> > (203) 577-4070 ext. 109
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>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>> Gina Monti
>>>>>>> Evergreen Systems Specialist
>>>>>>> Bibliomation, Inc.
>>>>>>> (203) 577-4070 ext. 109
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>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Gina Monti
>>>>> Evergreen Systems Specialist
>>>>> Bibliomation, Inc.
>>>>> (203) 577-4070 ext. 109
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Gina Monti
>>>> Evergreen Systems Specialist
>>>> Bibliomation, Inc.
>>>> (203) 577-4070 ext. 109
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Gina Monti
>>> Evergreen Systems Specialist
>>> Bibliomation, Inc.
>>> (203) 577-4070 ext. 109
>>>
>>>
>>>
>
> --
> Gina Monti
> Evergreen Systems Specialist
> Bibliomation, Inc.
> (203) 577-4070 ext. 109
>


-- 
Gina Monti
Evergreen Systems Specialist
Bibliomation, Inc.
(203) 577-4070 ext. 109
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