[evergreen-outreach] Hatch Video

Fri Jan 8 15:38:20 EST 2021

I will get these loaded this afternoon and follow up when they're available
via Youtube.

On Thu, Jan 7, 2021 at 2:59 PM Jason Boyer <jboyer at equinoxinitiative.org>
wrote:

> Sorry, I should have mentioned that. We can’t pre-install the FF version
> because FF doesn’t associate pre-installed extensions with their addon
> site, so it would never update or we would have to re-release Hatch
> installers to update the FF extension.
>
> Jason
>
> --
> Jason Boyer
> Senior System Administrator
> Equinox Open Library Initiative
> phone:  +1 (877) Open-ILS (673-6457)
> email:  JBoyer at EquinoxInitiative.org <JBoyer at EquinoxInitiative.org>
> web:  https://EquinoxInitiative.org/
>
> On Jan 7, 2021, at 2:50 PM, Gina Monti <gmonti at biblio.org> wrote:
>
> Cool here are my final products for the Chrome and Firefox versions.  I
> wasn't sure if the installer pre-installs the Firefox add on, but I did
> mention it does it in Chrome so I don't know if I have to refilm that.
>
>
> https://drive.google.com/file/d/18xiHYGaAw13gJm7OZRcR1mhilLxB7BH5/view?usp=sharing
>
>
> https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Dl8Gxa5nUYKLnl7g_ElXpnkTA3wX6Jtn/view?usp=sharing
>
> On Tue, Jan 5, 2021 at 12:38 PM <rogan.hamby at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I just did another viewing of it and +1 from me.
>>
>> On Tue, Jan 5, 2021 at 11:17 AM Gina Monti <gmonti at biblio.org> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Everyone,
>>>
>>> I wanted to get some thoughts on the previous video I sent.  If that's
>>> all fine, I'll edit this for upload and will do a similar one for Firefox.
>>>
>>> On Thu, Dec 17, 2020 at 2:01 PM Gina Monti <gmonti at biblio.org> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Jason,
>>>>
>>>> I actually was able to get it to pre-install so I tried it out a couple
>>>> of times after and it's kind of hit or miss.  I addressed both methods in
>>>> this next draft.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> https://drive.google.com/file/d/1FiyHaSvYLc2cw_pQtu2_As6u37RI9CCN/view?usp=sharing
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Dec 17, 2020 at 10:42 AM Gina Monti <gmonti at biblio.org> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I wouldn't be surprised with the recent Chrome update.  I know certain
>>>>> libraries were reporting issues printing after the fact.
>>>>>
>>>>> I could mention restarting then showing the manual extension
>>>>> installation if it doesn't work.  I'll also reshoot it without saving the
>>>>> settings to local Hatch storage.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thank you for your comments, Jason!
>>>>>
>>>>> On Thu, Dec 17, 2020, 10:37 AM Jason Boyer <
>>>>> jboyer at equinoxinitiative.org> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Shoot. Ok, I’ll look into that to see if something changed. Could be
>>>>>> Windows 10, could be Chrome, etc.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Jason
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> Jason Boyer
>>>>>> Senior System Administrator
>>>>>> Equinox Open Library Initiative
>>>>>> phone:  +1 (877) Open-ILS (673-6457)
>>>>>> email:  JBoyer at EquinoxInitiative.org <JBoyer at EquinoxInitiative.org>
>>>>>> web:  https://EquinoxInitiative.org/ <https://equinoxinitiative.org/>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Dec 17, 2020, at 10:32 AM, Gina Monti <gmonti at biblio.org> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I tried the pre-installation process you suggested and I couldn't get
>>>>>> the extension to show up in my browser.  I don't know if anyone else has
>>>>>> this same issue.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Wed, Dec 16, 2020 at 2:03 PM Jason Boyer <
>>>>>> jboyer at equinoxinitiative.org> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> One thing that you might consider for the Chrome video (because this
>>>>>>> doesn’t apply to FF and can’t for the foreseeable future) is that the Hatch
>>>>>>> Installer downloaded from evergreen-ils.org will try to pre-install
>>>>>>> the Chrome extension so you should be able to just download and run that
>>>>>>> installer, (possibly) restart Chrome, and go.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> If you don’t want to have that much variance between the videos
>>>>>>> though that’s understandable.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Also, re: storing settings in Hatch, I would suggest saying
>>>>>>> explicitly not to do it. It’s already deprecated and db-based settings have
>>>>>>> completely replaced it with a more reliable mechanism so if it hasn’t been
>>>>>>> enabled in the past it should not be. If you wanted to go over how to
>>>>>>> disable it that’s just clicking the “Copy Hatch Settings to Local Storage”
>>>>>>> button and then un-checking the Store Local Settings in Hatch box.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Watching you explain the various pieces makes me wonder if we might
>>>>>>> have made a mistake by not giving one of the two aspects a different name.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Jason
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>> Jason Boyer
>>>>>>> Senior System Administrator
>>>>>>> Equinox Open Library Initiative
>>>>>>> phone:  +1 (877) Open-ILS (673-6457)
>>>>>>> email:  JBoyer at EquinoxInitiative.org <JBoyer at EquinoxInitiative.org>
>>>>>>> web:  https://EquinoxInitiative.org/
>>>>>>> <https://equinoxinitiative.org/>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Dec 14, 2020, at 3:20 PM, Gina Monti <gmonti at biblio.org> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi Everyone,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Here's a draft of what I have for Chrome.  Let me know what needs
>>>>>>> fixing/suggestions and I'll reshoot.  It does come off a little loud so you
>>>>>>> may want to turn your volume down.  That'll get fixed in the final product.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> https://drive.google.com/file/d/1bvaSLkw_5IRnFKPFr1QeOPUnhARKOR7R/view?usp=sharing
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Fri, Dec 11, 2020 at 1:33 PM Gina Monti <gmonti at biblio.org>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I used a headset.  I think what I'll do is try another recorder to
>>>>>>>> make sure the issue isn't the one screen recorder I have auto-selecting my
>>>>>>>> internal microphone on my computer.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Fri, Dec 11, 2020 at 1:09 PM <rogan.hamby at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I think that all sounds good.  In regards to your microphone, is
>>>>>>>>> this a built in mic on a setup or an external mic?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Dec 9, 2020 at 1:10 PM Gina Monti <gmonti at biblio.org>
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Greetings Everyone,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I'm working on the Hatch video and filmed a very rough draft but
>>>>>>>>>> I'm having issues with my microphone coming out echo-y so I'm working on
>>>>>>>>>> fixing that if possible.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> What I have in terms of the procedure for the Chrome version is
>>>>>>>>>> this:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> 1) Downloading the 0.3.2 Hatch version via the Evergreen website.
>>>>>>>>>> 2) Adding the extension on Chrome Web Store.
>>>>>>>>>> 3) Implementing Hatch with "Print/Storage Services with Hatch"
>>>>>>>>>> 4) Mentioned to go to Print Settings and Templates for management
>>>>>>>>>> and Hatch saving those locally to the browser
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> In addition, I showed where extensions are managed towards the
>>>>>>>>>> beginning during the intro.  What else needs to be added to this?  I know I
>>>>>>>>>> asked about showing a print job example, but I don't have a printer with me
>>>>>>>>>> so I'm unsure how effective/necessary that is.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> If anything needs to be added to this, let me know.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Otherwise, if I can't solve the issue with my microphone, what
>>>>>>>>>> would be advisable in terms of audio besides purchasing new equipment
>>>>>>>>>> entirely?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Dec 3, 2020 at 2:02 PM Jason Boyer <
>>>>>>>>>> jboyer at equinoxinitiative.org> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> > Besides anything else you think should be added, I want to
>>>>>>>>>>> know how I should approach the "save local settings in hatch" bit because I
>>>>>>>>>>> know libraries report issues like white screens.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> It should be approached as if it were a wild animal, eager to
>>>>>>>>>>> chew on fingers. :-) That feature is already deprecated and will be
>>>>>>>>>>> completely removed soon (probably in 3.7).
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Something that might not be immediately obvious but is *very*
>>>>>>>>>>> nice about the latest version of Hatch when used with Evergreen 3.4+ is
>>>>>>>>>>> that Hatch will always store the workstation registration(s) locally so
>>>>>>>>>>> you’re able to totally wipe your browser’s history without having to
>>>>>>>>>>> re-register all of the workstations. That feature might drive adoption
>>>>>>>>>>> almost as much as printing at some locations.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Jason
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>> Jason Boyer
>>>>>>>>>>> Senior System Administrator
>>>>>>>>>>> Equinox Open Library Initiative
>>>>>>>>>>> phone:  +1 (877) Open-ILS (673-6457)
>>>>>>>>>>> email:  JBoyer at EquinoxInitiative.org
>>>>>>>>>>> <JBoyer at EquinoxInitiative.org>
>>>>>>>>>>> web:  https://EquinoxInitiative.org/
>>>>>>>>>>> <https://equinoxinitiative.org/>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> > On Dec 3, 2020, at 11:25 AM, Gina Monti <gmonti at biblio.org>
>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>>> > Hello Everyone,
>>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>>> > Thank you for the opportunity to work on this project.  I
>>>>>>>>>>> wanted to ask for some guidance on the requirements of what should be shown
>>>>>>>>>>> in the video.  What I have so far is:
>>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>>> > -Locating the browser extension
>>>>>>>>>>> > -Downloading the raw program and installing
>>>>>>>>>>> > -Activating through Evergreen
>>>>>>>>>>> > -Showing an example of saving a print template through Hatch
>>>>>>>>>>> and executing an example of a printout
>>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>>> > I will be showing this on our 3.5 test system and download the
>>>>>>>>>>> latest 0.3.2 version.
>>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>>> > Besides anything else you think should be added, I want to
>>>>>>>>>>> know how I should approach the "save local settings in hatch" bit because I
>>>>>>>>>>> know libraries report issues like white screens.  For now I'm just going to
>>>>>>>>>>> check off "Use Hatch for Printing" under Hatch settings and put a blurb
>>>>>>>>>>> advising against the other checkboxes.
>>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>>> > Thanks for your time and collaboration!
>>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>>> > --
>>>>>>>>>>> > Gina Monti
>>>>>>>>>>> > Evergreen Systems Specialist
>>>>>>>>>>> > Bibliomation, Inc.
>>>>>>>>>>> > (203) 577-4070 ext. 109
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>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>> Gina Monti
>>>>>>>>>> Evergreen Systems Specialist
>>>>>>>>>> Bibliomation, Inc.
>>>>>>>>>> (203) 577-4070 ext. 109
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>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>> Gina Monti
>>>>>>>> Evergreen Systems Specialist
>>>>>>>> Bibliomation, Inc.
>>>>>>>> (203) 577-4070 ext. 109
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>> Gina Monti
>>>>>>> Evergreen Systems Specialist
>>>>>>> Bibliomation, Inc.
>>>>>>> (203) 577-4070 ext. 109
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> Gina Monti
>>>>>> Evergreen Systems Specialist
>>>>>> Bibliomation, Inc.
>>>>>> (203) 577-4070 ext. 109
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Gina Monti
>>>> Evergreen Systems Specialist
>>>> Bibliomation, Inc.
>>>> (203) 577-4070 ext. 109
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Gina Monti
>>> Evergreen Systems Specialist
>>> Bibliomation, Inc.
>>> (203) 577-4070 ext. 109
>>>
>>
>
> --
> Gina Monti
> Evergreen Systems Specialist
> Bibliomation, Inc.
> (203) 577-4070 ext. 109
>
>
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