[evergreen-outreach] Hatch Video

Fri Jan 8 16:41:41 EST 2021

The live!

https://youtu.be/3PkVQKqsXyQ

https://youtu.be/z_Nr3I838ME

Again, thank you Gina, these are wonderful to have.

On Fri, Jan 8, 2021 at 3:38 PM <rogan.hamby at gmail.com> wrote:

> I will get these loaded this afternoon and follow up when they're
> available via Youtube.
>
> On Thu, Jan 7, 2021 at 2:59 PM Jason Boyer <jboyer at equinoxinitiative.org>
> wrote:
>
>> Sorry, I should have mentioned that. We can’t pre-install the FF version
>> because FF doesn’t associate pre-installed extensions with their addon
>> site, so it would never update or we would have to re-release Hatch
>> installers to update the FF extension.
>>
>> Jason
>>
>> --
>> Jason Boyer
>> Senior System Administrator
>> Equinox Open Library Initiative
>> phone:  +1 (877) Open-ILS (673-6457)
>> email:  JBoyer at EquinoxInitiative.org <JBoyer at EquinoxInitiative.org>
>> web:  https://EquinoxInitiative.org/
>>
>> On Jan 7, 2021, at 2:50 PM, Gina Monti <gmonti at biblio.org> wrote:
>>
>> Cool here are my final products for the Chrome and Firefox versions.  I
>> wasn't sure if the installer pre-installs the Firefox add on, but I did
>> mention it does it in Chrome so I don't know if I have to refilm that.
>>
>>
>> https://drive.google.com/file/d/18xiHYGaAw13gJm7OZRcR1mhilLxB7BH5/view?usp=sharing
>>
>>
>> https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Dl8Gxa5nUYKLnl7g_ElXpnkTA3wX6Jtn/view?usp=sharing
>>
>> On Tue, Jan 5, 2021 at 12:38 PM <rogan.hamby at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> I just did another viewing of it and +1 from me.
>>>
>>> On Tue, Jan 5, 2021 at 11:17 AM Gina Monti <gmonti at biblio.org> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi Everyone,
>>>>
>>>> I wanted to get some thoughts on the previous video I sent.  If that's
>>>> all fine, I'll edit this for upload and will do a similar one for Firefox.
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Dec 17, 2020 at 2:01 PM Gina Monti <gmonti at biblio.org> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Jason,
>>>>>
>>>>> I actually was able to get it to pre-install so I tried it out a
>>>>> couple of times after and it's kind of hit or miss.  I addressed both
>>>>> methods in this next draft.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> https://drive.google.com/file/d/1FiyHaSvYLc2cw_pQtu2_As6u37RI9CCN/view?usp=sharing
>>>>>
>>>>> On Thu, Dec 17, 2020 at 10:42 AM Gina Monti <gmonti at biblio.org> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> I wouldn't be surprised with the recent Chrome update.  I know
>>>>>> certain libraries were reporting issues printing after the fact.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I could mention restarting then showing the manual extension
>>>>>> installation if it doesn't work.  I'll also reshoot it without saving the
>>>>>> settings to local Hatch storage.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thank you for your comments, Jason!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Thu, Dec 17, 2020, 10:37 AM Jason Boyer <
>>>>>> jboyer at equinoxinitiative.org> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Shoot. Ok, I’ll look into that to see if something changed. Could be
>>>>>>> Windows 10, could be Chrome, etc.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Jason
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>> Jason Boyer
>>>>>>> Senior System Administrator
>>>>>>> Equinox Open Library Initiative
>>>>>>> phone:  +1 (877) Open-ILS (673-6457)
>>>>>>> email:  JBoyer at EquinoxInitiative.org <JBoyer at EquinoxInitiative.org>
>>>>>>> web:  https://EquinoxInitiative.org/
>>>>>>> <https://equinoxinitiative.org/>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Dec 17, 2020, at 10:32 AM, Gina Monti <gmonti at biblio.org> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I tried the pre-installation process you suggested and I couldn't
>>>>>>> get the extension to show up in my browser.  I don't know if anyone else
>>>>>>> has this same issue.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Wed, Dec 16, 2020 at 2:03 PM Jason Boyer <
>>>>>>> jboyer at equinoxinitiative.org> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> One thing that you might consider for the Chrome video (because
>>>>>>>> this doesn’t apply to FF and can’t for the foreseeable future) is that the
>>>>>>>> Hatch Installer downloaded from evergreen-ils.org will try to
>>>>>>>> pre-install the Chrome extension so you should be able to just download and
>>>>>>>> run that installer, (possibly) restart Chrome, and go.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> If you don’t want to have that much variance between the videos
>>>>>>>> though that’s understandable.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Also, re: storing settings in Hatch, I would suggest saying
>>>>>>>> explicitly not to do it. It’s already deprecated and db-based settings have
>>>>>>>> completely replaced it with a more reliable mechanism so if it hasn’t been
>>>>>>>> enabled in the past it should not be. If you wanted to go over how to
>>>>>>>> disable it that’s just clicking the “Copy Hatch Settings to Local Storage”
>>>>>>>> button and then un-checking the Store Local Settings in Hatch box.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Watching you explain the various pieces makes me wonder if we might
>>>>>>>> have made a mistake by not giving one of the two aspects a different name.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Jason
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>> Jason Boyer
>>>>>>>> Senior System Administrator
>>>>>>>> Equinox Open Library Initiative
>>>>>>>> phone:  +1 (877) Open-ILS (673-6457)
>>>>>>>> email:  JBoyer at EquinoxInitiative.org <JBoyer at EquinoxInitiative.org>
>>>>>>>> web:  https://EquinoxInitiative.org/
>>>>>>>> <https://equinoxinitiative.org/>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Dec 14, 2020, at 3:20 PM, Gina Monti <gmonti at biblio.org> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hi Everyone,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Here's a draft of what I have for Chrome.  Let me know what needs
>>>>>>>> fixing/suggestions and I'll reshoot.  It does come off a little loud so you
>>>>>>>> may want to turn your volume down.  That'll get fixed in the final product.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> https://drive.google.com/file/d/1bvaSLkw_5IRnFKPFr1QeOPUnhARKOR7R/view?usp=sharing
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Fri, Dec 11, 2020 at 1:33 PM Gina Monti <gmonti at biblio.org>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I used a headset.  I think what I'll do is try another recorder to
>>>>>>>>> make sure the issue isn't the one screen recorder I have auto-selecting my
>>>>>>>>> internal microphone on my computer.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Dec 11, 2020 at 1:09 PM <rogan.hamby at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I think that all sounds good.  In regards to your microphone, is
>>>>>>>>>> this a built in mic on a setup or an external mic?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Dec 9, 2020 at 1:10 PM Gina Monti <gmonti at biblio.org>
>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Greetings Everyone,
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I'm working on the Hatch video and filmed a very rough draft but
>>>>>>>>>>> I'm having issues with my microphone coming out echo-y so I'm working on
>>>>>>>>>>> fixing that if possible.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> What I have in terms of the procedure for the Chrome version is
>>>>>>>>>>> this:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> 1) Downloading the 0.3.2 Hatch version via the Evergreen website.
>>>>>>>>>>> 2) Adding the extension on Chrome Web Store.
>>>>>>>>>>> 3) Implementing Hatch with "Print/Storage Services with Hatch"
>>>>>>>>>>> 4) Mentioned to go to Print Settings and Templates for
>>>>>>>>>>> management and Hatch saving those locally to the browser
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> In addition, I showed where extensions are managed towards the
>>>>>>>>>>> beginning during the intro.  What else needs to be added to this?  I know I
>>>>>>>>>>> asked about showing a print job example, but I don't have a printer with me
>>>>>>>>>>> so I'm unsure how effective/necessary that is.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> If anything needs to be added to this, let me know.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Otherwise, if I can't solve the issue with my microphone, what
>>>>>>>>>>> would be advisable in terms of audio besides purchasing new equipment
>>>>>>>>>>> entirely?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Dec 3, 2020 at 2:02 PM Jason Boyer <
>>>>>>>>>>> jboyer at equinoxinitiative.org> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> > Besides anything else you think should be added, I want to
>>>>>>>>>>>> know how I should approach the "save local settings in hatch" bit because I
>>>>>>>>>>>> know libraries report issues like white screens.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> It should be approached as if it were a wild animal, eager to
>>>>>>>>>>>> chew on fingers. :-) That feature is already deprecated and will be
>>>>>>>>>>>> completely removed soon (probably in 3.7).
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Something that might not be immediately obvious but is *very*
>>>>>>>>>>>> nice about the latest version of Hatch when used with Evergreen 3.4+ is
>>>>>>>>>>>> that Hatch will always store the workstation registration(s) locally so
>>>>>>>>>>>> you’re able to totally wipe your browser’s history without having to
>>>>>>>>>>>> re-register all of the workstations. That feature might drive adoption
>>>>>>>>>>>> almost as much as printing at some locations.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Jason
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>> Jason Boyer
>>>>>>>>>>>> Senior System Administrator
>>>>>>>>>>>> Equinox Open Library Initiative
>>>>>>>>>>>> phone:  +1 (877) Open-ILS (673-6457)
>>>>>>>>>>>> email:  JBoyer at EquinoxInitiative.org
>>>>>>>>>>>> <JBoyer at EquinoxInitiative.org>
>>>>>>>>>>>> web:  https://EquinoxInitiative.org/
>>>>>>>>>>>> <https://equinoxinitiative.org/>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> > On Dec 3, 2020, at 11:25 AM, Gina Monti <gmonti at biblio.org>
>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>>>> > Hello Everyone,
>>>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>>>> > Thank you for the opportunity to work on this project.  I
>>>>>>>>>>>> wanted to ask for some guidance on the requirements of what should be shown
>>>>>>>>>>>> in the video.  What I have so far is:
>>>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>>>> > -Locating the browser extension
>>>>>>>>>>>> > -Downloading the raw program and installing
>>>>>>>>>>>> > -Activating through Evergreen
>>>>>>>>>>>> > -Showing an example of saving a print template through Hatch
>>>>>>>>>>>> and executing an example of a printout
>>>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>>>> > I will be showing this on our 3.5 test system and download
>>>>>>>>>>>> the latest 0.3.2 version.
>>>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>>>> > Besides anything else you think should be added, I want to
>>>>>>>>>>>> know how I should approach the "save local settings in hatch" bit because I
>>>>>>>>>>>> know libraries report issues like white screens.  For now I'm just going to
>>>>>>>>>>>> check off "Use Hatch for Printing" under Hatch settings and put a blurb
>>>>>>>>>>>> advising against the other checkboxes.
>>>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>>>> > Thanks for your time and collaboration!
>>>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>>>> > --
>>>>>>>>>>>> > Gina Monti
>>>>>>>>>>>> > Evergreen Systems Specialist
>>>>>>>>>>>> > Bibliomation, Inc.
>>>>>>>>>>>> > (203) 577-4070 ext. 109
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>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>> Gina Monti
>>>>>>>>>>> Evergreen Systems Specialist
>>>>>>>>>>> Bibliomation, Inc.
>>>>>>>>>>> (203) 577-4070 ext. 109
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>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>> Gina Monti
>>>>>>>>> Evergreen Systems Specialist
>>>>>>>>> Bibliomation, Inc.
>>>>>>>>> (203) 577-4070 ext. 109
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>> Gina Monti
>>>>>>>> Evergreen Systems Specialist
>>>>>>>> Bibliomation, Inc.
>>>>>>>> (203) 577-4070 ext. 109
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>> Gina Monti
>>>>>>> Evergreen Systems Specialist
>>>>>>> Bibliomation, Inc.
>>>>>>> (203) 577-4070 ext. 109
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Gina Monti
>>>>> Evergreen Systems Specialist
>>>>> Bibliomation, Inc.
>>>>> (203) 577-4070 ext. 109
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Gina Monti
>>>> Evergreen Systems Specialist
>>>> Bibliomation, Inc.
>>>> (203) 577-4070 ext. 109
>>>>
>>>
>>
>> --
>> Gina Monti
>> Evergreen Systems Specialist
>> Bibliomation, Inc.
>> (203) 577-4070 ext. 109
>>
>>
>>
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