[evergreen-outreach] Hatch Video
Gina Monti
gmonti at biblio.org
Mon Jan 11 08:42:59 EST 2021
Thank for all your help!
On Fri, Jan 8, 2021 at 4:55 PM Deborah Luchenbill <
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> Gina++!!! Awesome!
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> On Fri, Jan 8, 2021 at 3:42 PM <rogan.hamby at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> The live!
>>
>> https://youtu.be/3PkVQKqsXyQ
>>
>> https://youtu.be/z_Nr3I838ME
>>
>> Again, thank you Gina, these are wonderful to have.
>>
>> On Fri, Jan 8, 2021 at 3:38 PM <rogan.hamby at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> I will get these loaded this afternoon and follow up when they're
>>> available via Youtube.
>>>
>>> On Thu, Jan 7, 2021 at 2:59 PM Jason Boyer <jboyer at equinoxinitiative.org>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Sorry, I should have mentioned that. We can’t pre-install the FF
>>>> version because FF doesn’t associate pre-installed extensions with their
>>>> addon site, so it would never update or we would have to re-release Hatch
>>>> installers to update the FF extension.
>>>>
>>>> Jason
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Jason Boyer
>>>> Senior System Administrator
>>>> Equinox Open Library Initiative
>>>> phone: +1 (877) Open-ILS (673-6457)
>>>> email: JBoyer at EquinoxInitiative.org <JBoyer at EquinoxInitiative.org>
>>>> web: https://EquinoxInitiative.org/
>>>>
>>>> On Jan 7, 2021, at 2:50 PM, Gina Monti <gmonti at biblio.org> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Cool here are my final products for the Chrome and Firefox versions. I
>>>> wasn't sure if the installer pre-installs the Firefox add on, but I did
>>>> mention it does it in Chrome so I don't know if I have to refilm that.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> https://drive.google.com/file/d/18xiHYGaAw13gJm7OZRcR1mhilLxB7BH5/view?usp=sharing
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Dl8Gxa5nUYKLnl7g_ElXpnkTA3wX6Jtn/view?usp=sharing
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Jan 5, 2021 at 12:38 PM <rogan.hamby at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I just did another viewing of it and +1 from me.
>>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, Jan 5, 2021 at 11:17 AM Gina Monti <gmonti at biblio.org> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi Everyone,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I wanted to get some thoughts on the previous video I sent. If
>>>>>> that's all fine, I'll edit this for upload and will do a similar one for
>>>>>> Firefox.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Thu, Dec 17, 2020 at 2:01 PM Gina Monti <gmonti at biblio.org> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Jason,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I actually was able to get it to pre-install so I tried it out a
>>>>>>> couple of times after and it's kind of hit or miss. I addressed both
>>>>>>> methods in this next draft.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> https://drive.google.com/file/d/1FiyHaSvYLc2cw_pQtu2_As6u37RI9CCN/view?usp=sharing
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Thu, Dec 17, 2020 at 10:42 AM Gina Monti <gmonti at biblio.org>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I wouldn't be surprised with the recent Chrome update. I know
>>>>>>>> certain libraries were reporting issues printing after the fact.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I could mention restarting then showing the manual extension
>>>>>>>> installation if it doesn't work. I'll also reshoot it without saving the
>>>>>>>> settings to local Hatch storage.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Thank you for your comments, Jason!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Thu, Dec 17, 2020, 10:37 AM Jason Boyer <
>>>>>>>> jboyer at equinoxinitiative.org> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Shoot. Ok, I’ll look into that to see if something changed. Could
>>>>>>>>> be Windows 10, could be Chrome, etc.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Jason
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>> Jason Boyer
>>>>>>>>> Senior System Administrator
>>>>>>>>> Equinox Open Library Initiative
>>>>>>>>> phone: +1 (877) Open-ILS (673-6457)
>>>>>>>>> email: JBoyer at EquinoxInitiative.org
>>>>>>>>> <JBoyer at EquinoxInitiative.org>
>>>>>>>>> web: https://EquinoxInitiative.org/
>>>>>>>>> <https://equinoxinitiative.org/>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Dec 17, 2020, at 10:32 AM, Gina Monti <gmonti at biblio.org>
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I tried the pre-installation process you suggested and I couldn't
>>>>>>>>> get the extension to show up in my browser. I don't know if anyone else
>>>>>>>>> has this same issue.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Dec 16, 2020 at 2:03 PM Jason Boyer <
>>>>>>>>> jboyer at equinoxinitiative.org> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> One thing that you might consider for the Chrome video (because
>>>>>>>>>> this doesn’t apply to FF and can’t for the foreseeable future) is that the
>>>>>>>>>> Hatch Installer downloaded from evergreen-ils.org will try to
>>>>>>>>>> pre-install the Chrome extension so you should be able to just download and
>>>>>>>>>> run that installer, (possibly) restart Chrome, and go.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> If you don’t want to have that much variance between the videos
>>>>>>>>>> though that’s understandable.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Also, re: storing settings in Hatch, I would suggest saying
>>>>>>>>>> explicitly not to do it. It’s already deprecated and db-based settings have
>>>>>>>>>> completely replaced it with a more reliable mechanism so if it hasn’t been
>>>>>>>>>> enabled in the past it should not be. If you wanted to go over how to
>>>>>>>>>> disable it that’s just clicking the “Copy Hatch Settings to Local Storage”
>>>>>>>>>> button and then un-checking the Store Local Settings in Hatch box.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Watching you explain the various pieces makes me wonder if we
>>>>>>>>>> might have made a mistake by not giving one of the two aspects a different
>>>>>>>>>> name.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Jason
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>> Jason Boyer
>>>>>>>>>> Senior System Administrator
>>>>>>>>>> Equinox Open Library Initiative
>>>>>>>>>> phone: +1 (877) Open-ILS (673-6457)
>>>>>>>>>> email: JBoyer at EquinoxInitiative.org
>>>>>>>>>> <JBoyer at EquinoxInitiative.org>
>>>>>>>>>> web: https://EquinoxInitiative.org/
>>>>>>>>>> <https://equinoxinitiative.org/>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Dec 14, 2020, at 3:20 PM, Gina Monti <gmonti at biblio.org>
>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Hi Everyone,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Here's a draft of what I have for Chrome. Let me know what needs
>>>>>>>>>> fixing/suggestions and I'll reshoot. It does come off a little loud so you
>>>>>>>>>> may want to turn your volume down. That'll get fixed in the final product.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> https://drive.google.com/file/d/1bvaSLkw_5IRnFKPFr1QeOPUnhARKOR7R/view?usp=sharing
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Dec 11, 2020 at 1:33 PM Gina Monti <gmonti at biblio.org>
>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I used a headset. I think what I'll do is try another recorder
>>>>>>>>>>> to make sure the issue isn't the one screen recorder I have auto-selecting
>>>>>>>>>>> my internal microphone on my computer.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Dec 11, 2020 at 1:09 PM <rogan.hamby at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> I think that all sounds good. In regards to your microphone,
>>>>>>>>>>>> is this a built in mic on a setup or an external mic?
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Dec 9, 2020 at 1:10 PM Gina Monti <gmonti at biblio.org>
>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Greetings Everyone,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm working on the Hatch video and filmed a very rough draft
>>>>>>>>>>>>> but I'm having issues with my microphone coming out echo-y so I'm working
>>>>>>>>>>>>> on fixing that if possible.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> What I have in terms of the procedure for the Chrome version
>>>>>>>>>>>>> is this:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 1) Downloading the 0.3.2 Hatch version via the Evergreen
>>>>>>>>>>>>> website.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2) Adding the extension on Chrome Web Store.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 3) Implementing Hatch with "Print/Storage Services with Hatch"
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 4) Mentioned to go to Print Settings and Templates for
>>>>>>>>>>>>> management and Hatch saving those locally to the browser
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> In addition, I showed where extensions are managed towards the
>>>>>>>>>>>>> beginning during the intro. What else needs to be added to this? I know I
>>>>>>>>>>>>> asked about showing a print job example, but I don't have a printer with me
>>>>>>>>>>>>> so I'm unsure how effective/necessary that is.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> If anything needs to be added to this, let me know.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Otherwise, if I can't solve the issue with my microphone, what
>>>>>>>>>>>>> would be advisable in terms of audio besides purchasing new equipment
>>>>>>>>>>>>> entirely?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Dec 3, 2020 at 2:02 PM Jason Boyer <
>>>>>>>>>>>>> jboyer at equinoxinitiative.org> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > Besides anything else you think should be added, I want to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> know how I should approach the "save local settings in hatch" bit because I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> know libraries report issues like white screens.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It should be approached as if it were a wild animal, eager to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> chew on fingers. :-) That feature is already deprecated and will be
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> completely removed soon (probably in 3.7).
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Something that might not be immediately obvious but is *very*
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> nice about the latest version of Hatch when used with Evergreen 3.4+ is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that Hatch will always store the workstation registration(s) locally so
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> you’re able to totally wipe your browser’s history without having to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> re-register all of the workstations. That feature might drive adoption
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> almost as much as printing at some locations.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jason
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jason Boyer
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Senior System Administrator
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Equinox Open Library Initiative
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> phone: +1 (877) Open-ILS (673-6457)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> email: JBoyer at EquinoxInitiative.org
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <JBoyer at EquinoxInitiative.org>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> web: https://EquinoxInitiative.org/
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <https://equinoxinitiative.org/>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > On Dec 3, 2020, at 11:25 AM, Gina Monti <gmonti at biblio.org>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > Hello Everyone,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > Thank you for the opportunity to work on this project. I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wanted to ask for some guidance on the requirements of what should be shown
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in the video. What I have so far is:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > -Locating the browser extension
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > -Downloading the raw program and installing
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > -Activating through Evergreen
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > -Showing an example of saving a print template through
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hatch and executing an example of a printout
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > I will be showing this on our 3.5 test system and download
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the latest 0.3.2 version.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > Besides anything else you think should be added, I want to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> know how I should approach the "save local settings in hatch" bit because I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> know libraries report issues like white screens. For now I'm just going to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> check off "Use Hatch for Printing" under Hatch settings and put a blurb
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> advising against the other checkboxes.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > Thanks for your time and collaboration!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > --
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > Gina Monti
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > Evergreen Systems Specialist
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > Bibliomation, Inc.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > (203) 577-4070 ext. 109
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Gina Monti
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Evergreen Systems Specialist
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Bibliomation, Inc.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> (203) 577-4070 ext. 109
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>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>> Gina Monti
>>>>>>>>>>> Evergreen Systems Specialist
>>>>>>>>>>> Bibliomation, Inc.
>>>>>>>>>>> (203) 577-4070 ext. 109
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>> Gina Monti
>>>>>>>>>> Evergreen Systems Specialist
>>>>>>>>>> Bibliomation, Inc.
>>>>>>>>>> (203) 577-4070 ext. 109
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>> Gina Monti
>>>>>>>>> Evergreen Systems Specialist
>>>>>>>>> Bibliomation, Inc.
>>>>>>>>> (203) 577-4070 ext. 109
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>> Gina Monti
>>>>>>> Evergreen Systems Specialist
>>>>>>> Bibliomation, Inc.
>>>>>>> (203) 577-4070 ext. 109
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> Gina Monti
>>>>>> Evergreen Systems Specialist
>>>>>> Bibliomation, Inc.
>>>>>> (203) 577-4070 ext. 109
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Gina Monti
>>>> Evergreen Systems Specialist
>>>> Bibliomation, Inc.
>>>> (203) 577-4070 ext. 109
>>>>
>>>>
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