[evergreen-outreach] Hatch Video

Fri Jan 8 16:54:31 EST 2021

Gina++!!! Awesome!

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On Fri, Jan 8, 2021 at 3:42 PM <rogan.hamby at gmail.com> wrote:

> The live!
>
> https://youtu.be/3PkVQKqsXyQ
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> https://youtu.be/z_Nr3I838ME
>
> Again, thank you Gina, these are wonderful to have.
>
> On Fri, Jan 8, 2021 at 3:38 PM <rogan.hamby at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I will get these loaded this afternoon and follow up when they're
>> available via Youtube.
>>
>> On Thu, Jan 7, 2021 at 2:59 PM Jason Boyer <jboyer at equinoxinitiative.org>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Sorry, I should have mentioned that. We can’t pre-install the FF version
>>> because FF doesn’t associate pre-installed extensions with their addon
>>> site, so it would never update or we would have to re-release Hatch
>>> installers to update the FF extension.
>>>
>>> Jason
>>>
>>> --
>>> Jason Boyer
>>> Senior System Administrator
>>> Equinox Open Library Initiative
>>> phone:  +1 (877) Open-ILS (673-6457)
>>> email:  JBoyer at EquinoxInitiative.org <JBoyer at EquinoxInitiative.org>
>>> web:  https://EquinoxInitiative.org/
>>>
>>> On Jan 7, 2021, at 2:50 PM, Gina Monti <gmonti at biblio.org> wrote:
>>>
>>> Cool here are my final products for the Chrome and Firefox versions.  I
>>> wasn't sure if the installer pre-installs the Firefox add on, but I did
>>> mention it does it in Chrome so I don't know if I have to refilm that.
>>>
>>>
>>> https://drive.google.com/file/d/18xiHYGaAw13gJm7OZRcR1mhilLxB7BH5/view?usp=sharing
>>>
>>>
>>> https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Dl8Gxa5nUYKLnl7g_ElXpnkTA3wX6Jtn/view?usp=sharing
>>>
>>> On Tue, Jan 5, 2021 at 12:38 PM <rogan.hamby at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I just did another viewing of it and +1 from me.
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Jan 5, 2021 at 11:17 AM Gina Monti <gmonti at biblio.org> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi Everyone,
>>>>>
>>>>> I wanted to get some thoughts on the previous video I sent.  If that's
>>>>> all fine, I'll edit this for upload and will do a similar one for Firefox.
>>>>>
>>>>> On Thu, Dec 17, 2020 at 2:01 PM Gina Monti <gmonti at biblio.org> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Jason,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I actually was able to get it to pre-install so I tried it out a
>>>>>> couple of times after and it's kind of hit or miss.  I addressed both
>>>>>> methods in this next draft.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://drive.google.com/file/d/1FiyHaSvYLc2cw_pQtu2_As6u37RI9CCN/view?usp=sharing
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Thu, Dec 17, 2020 at 10:42 AM Gina Monti <gmonti at biblio.org>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I wouldn't be surprised with the recent Chrome update.  I know
>>>>>>> certain libraries were reporting issues printing after the fact.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I could mention restarting then showing the manual extension
>>>>>>> installation if it doesn't work.  I'll also reshoot it without saving the
>>>>>>> settings to local Hatch storage.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thank you for your comments, Jason!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Thu, Dec 17, 2020, 10:37 AM Jason Boyer <
>>>>>>> jboyer at equinoxinitiative.org> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Shoot. Ok, I’ll look into that to see if something changed. Could
>>>>>>>> be Windows 10, could be Chrome, etc.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Jason
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>> Jason Boyer
>>>>>>>> Senior System Administrator
>>>>>>>> Equinox Open Library Initiative
>>>>>>>> phone:  +1 (877) Open-ILS (673-6457)
>>>>>>>> email:  JBoyer at EquinoxInitiative.org <JBoyer at EquinoxInitiative.org>
>>>>>>>> web:  https://EquinoxInitiative.org/
>>>>>>>> <https://equinoxinitiative.org/>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Dec 17, 2020, at 10:32 AM, Gina Monti <gmonti at biblio.org> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I tried the pre-installation process you suggested and I couldn't
>>>>>>>> get the extension to show up in my browser.  I don't know if anyone else
>>>>>>>> has this same issue.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Wed, Dec 16, 2020 at 2:03 PM Jason Boyer <
>>>>>>>> jboyer at equinoxinitiative.org> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> One thing that you might consider for the Chrome video (because
>>>>>>>>> this doesn’t apply to FF and can’t for the foreseeable future) is that the
>>>>>>>>> Hatch Installer downloaded from evergreen-ils.org will try to
>>>>>>>>> pre-install the Chrome extension so you should be able to just download and
>>>>>>>>> run that installer, (possibly) restart Chrome, and go.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> If you don’t want to have that much variance between the videos
>>>>>>>>> though that’s understandable.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Also, re: storing settings in Hatch, I would suggest saying
>>>>>>>>> explicitly not to do it. It’s already deprecated and db-based settings have
>>>>>>>>> completely replaced it with a more reliable mechanism so if it hasn’t been
>>>>>>>>> enabled in the past it should not be. If you wanted to go over how to
>>>>>>>>> disable it that’s just clicking the “Copy Hatch Settings to Local Storage”
>>>>>>>>> button and then un-checking the Store Local Settings in Hatch box.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Watching you explain the various pieces makes me wonder if we
>>>>>>>>> might have made a mistake by not giving one of the two aspects a different
>>>>>>>>> name.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Jason
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>> Jason Boyer
>>>>>>>>> Senior System Administrator
>>>>>>>>> Equinox Open Library Initiative
>>>>>>>>> phone:  +1 (877) Open-ILS (673-6457)
>>>>>>>>> email:  JBoyer at EquinoxInitiative.org
>>>>>>>>> <JBoyer at EquinoxInitiative.org>
>>>>>>>>> web:  https://EquinoxInitiative.org/
>>>>>>>>> <https://equinoxinitiative.org/>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Dec 14, 2020, at 3:20 PM, Gina Monti <gmonti at biblio.org> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Hi Everyone,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Here's a draft of what I have for Chrome.  Let me know what needs
>>>>>>>>> fixing/suggestions and I'll reshoot.  It does come off a little loud so you
>>>>>>>>> may want to turn your volume down.  That'll get fixed in the final product.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> https://drive.google.com/file/d/1bvaSLkw_5IRnFKPFr1QeOPUnhARKOR7R/view?usp=sharing
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Dec 11, 2020 at 1:33 PM Gina Monti <gmonti at biblio.org>
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I used a headset.  I think what I'll do is try another recorder
>>>>>>>>>> to make sure the issue isn't the one screen recorder I have auto-selecting
>>>>>>>>>> my internal microphone on my computer.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Dec 11, 2020 at 1:09 PM <rogan.hamby at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I think that all sounds good.  In regards to your microphone, is
>>>>>>>>>>> this a built in mic on a setup or an external mic?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Dec 9, 2020 at 1:10 PM Gina Monti <gmonti at biblio.org>
>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Greetings Everyone,
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm working on the Hatch video and filmed a very rough draft
>>>>>>>>>>>> but I'm having issues with my microphone coming out echo-y so I'm working
>>>>>>>>>>>> on fixing that if possible.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> What I have in terms of the procedure for the Chrome version is
>>>>>>>>>>>> this:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> 1) Downloading the 0.3.2 Hatch version via the Evergreen
>>>>>>>>>>>> website.
>>>>>>>>>>>> 2) Adding the extension on Chrome Web Store.
>>>>>>>>>>>> 3) Implementing Hatch with "Print/Storage Services with Hatch"
>>>>>>>>>>>> 4) Mentioned to go to Print Settings and Templates for
>>>>>>>>>>>> management and Hatch saving those locally to the browser
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> In addition, I showed where extensions are managed towards the
>>>>>>>>>>>> beginning during the intro.  What else needs to be added to this?  I know I
>>>>>>>>>>>> asked about showing a print job example, but I don't have a printer with me
>>>>>>>>>>>> so I'm unsure how effective/necessary that is.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> If anything needs to be added to this, let me know.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Otherwise, if I can't solve the issue with my microphone, what
>>>>>>>>>>>> would be advisable in terms of audio besides purchasing new equipment
>>>>>>>>>>>> entirely?
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Dec 3, 2020 at 2:02 PM Jason Boyer <
>>>>>>>>>>>> jboyer at equinoxinitiative.org> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> > Besides anything else you think should be added, I want to
>>>>>>>>>>>>> know how I should approach the "save local settings in hatch" bit because I
>>>>>>>>>>>>> know libraries report issues like white screens.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> It should be approached as if it were a wild animal, eager to
>>>>>>>>>>>>> chew on fingers. :-) That feature is already deprecated and will be
>>>>>>>>>>>>> completely removed soon (probably in 3.7).
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Something that might not be immediately obvious but is *very*
>>>>>>>>>>>>> nice about the latest version of Hatch when used with Evergreen 3.4+ is
>>>>>>>>>>>>> that Hatch will always store the workstation registration(s) locally so
>>>>>>>>>>>>> you’re able to totally wipe your browser’s history without having to
>>>>>>>>>>>>> re-register all of the workstations. That feature might drive adoption
>>>>>>>>>>>>> almost as much as printing at some locations.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jason
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jason Boyer
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Senior System Administrator
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Equinox Open Library Initiative
>>>>>>>>>>>>> phone:  +1 (877) Open-ILS (673-6457)
>>>>>>>>>>>>> email:  JBoyer at EquinoxInitiative.org
>>>>>>>>>>>>> <JBoyer at EquinoxInitiative.org>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> web:  https://EquinoxInitiative.org/
>>>>>>>>>>>>> <https://equinoxinitiative.org/>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> > On Dec 3, 2020, at 11:25 AM, Gina Monti <gmonti at biblio.org>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>>>>> > Hello Everyone,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>>>>> > Thank you for the opportunity to work on this project.  I
>>>>>>>>>>>>> wanted to ask for some guidance on the requirements of what should be shown
>>>>>>>>>>>>> in the video.  What I have so far is:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>>>>> > -Locating the browser extension
>>>>>>>>>>>>> > -Downloading the raw program and installing
>>>>>>>>>>>>> > -Activating through Evergreen
>>>>>>>>>>>>> > -Showing an example of saving a print template through Hatch
>>>>>>>>>>>>> and executing an example of a printout
>>>>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>>>>> > I will be showing this on our 3.5 test system and download
>>>>>>>>>>>>> the latest 0.3.2 version.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>>>>> > Besides anything else you think should be added, I want to
>>>>>>>>>>>>> know how I should approach the "save local settings in hatch" bit because I
>>>>>>>>>>>>> know libraries report issues like white screens.  For now I'm just going to
>>>>>>>>>>>>> check off "Use Hatch for Printing" under Hatch settings and put a blurb
>>>>>>>>>>>>> advising against the other checkboxes.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>>>>> > Thanks for your time and collaboration!
>>>>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>>>>> > --
>>>>>>>>>>>>> > Gina Monti
>>>>>>>>>>>>> > Evergreen Systems Specialist
>>>>>>>>>>>>> > Bibliomation, Inc.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> > (203) 577-4070 ext. 109
>>>>>>>>>>>>> > _______________________________________________
>>>>>>>>>>>>> > evergreen-outreach mailing list
>>>>>>>>>>>>> > evergreen-outreach at list.evergreen-ils.org
>>>>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://list.evergreen-ils.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/evergreen-outreach
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>> Gina Monti
>>>>>>>>>>>> Evergreen Systems Specialist
>>>>>>>>>>>> Bibliomation, Inc.
>>>>>>>>>>>> (203) 577-4070 ext. 109
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>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>> Gina Monti
>>>>>>>>>> Evergreen Systems Specialist
>>>>>>>>>> Bibliomation, Inc.
>>>>>>>>>> (203) 577-4070 ext. 109
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>> Gina Monti
>>>>>>>>> Evergreen Systems Specialist
>>>>>>>>> Bibliomation, Inc.
>>>>>>>>> (203) 577-4070 ext. 109
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>> Gina Monti
>>>>>>>> Evergreen Systems Specialist
>>>>>>>> Bibliomation, Inc.
>>>>>>>> (203) 577-4070 ext. 109
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> Gina Monti
>>>>>> Evergreen Systems Specialist
>>>>>> Bibliomation, Inc.
>>>>>> (203) 577-4070 ext. 109
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Gina Monti
>>>>> Evergreen Systems Specialist
>>>>> Bibliomation, Inc.
>>>>> (203) 577-4070 ext. 109
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Gina Monti
>>> Evergreen Systems Specialist
>>> Bibliomation, Inc.
>>> (203) 577-4070 ext. 109
>>>
>>>
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