[Evergreen-web-team] Updated wiki page with links to EG 2011 Conference presentations

[Jim Craner]

>  -------Original Message-------
>  From: Anoop Atre <anoop.atre at mnsu.edu>
>  Subject: Re: Updated wiki page with links to EG 2011 Conference presentations
>  Sent: 16 Jun '11 10:46

>  I'm back after post-migration issues, staring at a possible state
>  shutdown and a deserved bout of bronchitis (still battling), so
>  apologies for delays in things I said I'd setup.

Hi Anoop, glad to have you back, hope you feel better!
 
>  The awesome features list/status is included and I plan on putting up a
>  link to it on one of the drop downs. [
>  http://evergreen-ils.org/dokuwiki/doku.php?id=feature_list ].

Looks awesome - thanks for getting that up there.  Thanks to some conversations w/ Bob M., I learned how 
to do iframes in Dokuwiki while you were gone but since I couldn't make dropdown menu changes, I wasn't 
able to help.  Thanks again!

>  Which brings me to Lori's comment about a top level section called
>  "wiki". I agree it's a bit useless but think of it more as a wiki
>  sitemap/start page. There always need to be links to important content
>  (wiki or otherwise) via menus/links.

I see what Lori was getting at, but I am OK with how it is now because I am somewhat used to seeing a 
"Wiki" link in a software community site's navigation as the informal docs / handbook / community docs 
part of the site, just like we're doing, and not just as a format.  Lots of smaller projects don't have any 
official docs and just use a wiki as the sole docs repository so my mental habit is "No docs link in the menu?  
Ah, there's a wiki link, click there."

>  I don't think one needs to approach this as wiki vs official website,
>  but we can discuss this in more detail some other time.

Given the current website environment, I wouldn't position it as "wiki vs. official website" but instead, 
"Documentation (Official) vs. Documentation (Community Wiki)" linking to the respective start pages of 
each (which I agree is necessary for wikis).  I think they are both equally useful but in different respects and 
our goal should be to help users easily get to the info they need no matter where it is or how it's 
maintained.  I think this is as good a time as any to start that conversation :)

>  Do agree that the conference pages/info need to be archived somewhere,
>  Ben Shum and I talked about this and possible ideas for the future.
>  Should future conference websites be hosted by the "hosts" or on the
>  Evergreen website?

My understanding of how it's done in the Drupal world, which has a pretty active "official" and "unofficial" 
events calendar, is that the Drupal Association (equivalent of the EG Foundation) "stewards" the domain 
name system AND provides website infrastructure for "official" events.  So when a local conference 
committee (London 2011) gets approved for an official global event, the DA sets up the site so there is 
unified domain name (london2011.drupal.org), user authentication, content syndication, etc. and since the 
DA is maintaining the infrastructure in perpetuity, they automatically archive everything.  Unsanctioned 
events' sites are hosted by the local hosts so there may or may not be a permanent archive of attendee 
info, proceedings, recordings, presentations, collaborative projects, etc.

If EG conferences are integral to growth of the EG community, then it could be argued that the Web Team 
should make supporting conferences part of their mandate: provide basic conference website services or 
help the hosts contract out to a third-party that offers those services.  In that case, we'd be supporting a 
"Conference Organizer" user role and the initial user story would be something like "Provide integration 
and/or hosting services as requested by Conference Organizers" during leadup to and wind-down after 
conferences and other events."

Thoughts?

Thanks!
Jim
  
>  Cheers
>  
>  On 06/10/2011 06:23 PM, Lori Bowen Ayre wrote:
>  > Hi All,
>  >
>  > See forwarded message below. I don't see a good place for these resources to
>  > live in the proposed site map revision (
>  > http://www.evergreen-ils.org/dokuwiki/lib/exe/fetch.php?
media=webteam:eg_sitemap_proposed_20110509.pdf
>  > ).
>  >
>  > I think we need a place for conference info to live before, during and after
>  > each conference.   Or does it just live on the Wiki.  Wish begs the
>  > question....how does the website relate to wiki content?  I"m a bit baffled
>  > by websites that have "wiki" as high level menu choices.  It's a format, not
>  > a content category.
>  >
>  > I note that Jim's proposed site map has Community Wiki off the Resources
>  > Main Menu.  So, how does one decide what goes on the community wiki versus
>  > the official website?  It certainly seems like info about Evergreen
>  > conferences belongs on the "official website."
>  >
>  > Lori
>  >
>  >
>  >
>  > ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>  > From: Yamil Suarez<ysuarez at berklee.edu>
>  > Date: Thu, Jun 9, 2011 at 12:03 PM
>  > Subject: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Updated wiki page with links to EG 2011
>  > Conference presentations
>  > To: Documentation discussion for Evergreen software<
>  > open-ils-documentation at list.georgialibraries.org>,
>  > open-ils-general at list.georgialibraries.org,
>  > open-ils-dev at list.georgialibraries.org
>  >
>  >
>  > Apologies for the cross-post,
>  >
>  > We now have an updated page with links to the 2011 conference presentations.
>  > The content was created by Corinne (from ESI) with some additional edits
>  > from me. If you are a presenter that does not have their presentation
>  > listed, you can send it to me or Corinne for inclusion. Please let me know
>  > of any errors. Also let me know if you want me to include any relevant
>  > non-conference Evergreen presentations on the advocacy page.
>  >
>  > Advocacy page:
>  > http://www.open-ils.org/dokuwiki/doku.php?id=advocacy:presentations
>  >   (Original presentations' link from conference thumb drives)
>  >
>  >
>  > 2011 conference presentations page:
>  > http://www.open-ils.org/dokuwiki/doku.php?id=conference:2011
>  >
>  > Thanks,
>  > Yamil
>  >
>  
>  
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