[Evergreen-web-team] Donation Button on Home Page

Tue May 22 11:58:03 EDT 2012

>>Yes, sorry! I should have said "web and communications team LIST",
>>because that was what I really meant.  My apologies.  I certainly did
>>not mean to exclude anyone who has signed up to this list and has an
>>interest in the topics discussed here.

Then, yes, a +1 to sending this just to the web team list for the vote.
Sorry for the misinterpretation! :)

Kathy

>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: evergreen-web-team-bounces at list.evergreen-ils.org
>>[mailto:evergreen-web-team-bounces at list.evergreen-ils.org] On Behalf Of
>>Lazar, Alexey Vladimirovich
>>Sent: Tuesday, May 22, 2012 11:54 AM
>>To: Evergreen Community Web Team Email List
>>Subject: Re: [Evergreen-web-team] Donation Button on Home Page
>>
>>> I don't think we need to put this out to the general list for a vote,
>>> but I don't see why we need to restrict this vote to web team members
>>> either. I'm assuming there are people who are not "official" members
>>> of the web team subscribed to this list who may be following along
>>and
>>> have an interest in the result.
>>
>>Yes, sorry! I should have said "web and communications team LIST",
>>because that was what I really meant.  My apologies.  I certainly did
>>not mean to exclude anyone who has signed up to this list and has an
>>interest in the topics discussed here.
>>
>>Alexey Lazar
>>PALS
>>Information System Developer and Integrator
>>507-389-2907
>>http://www.mnpals.org/
>>
>>On May 22, 2012, at 10:21 , Kathy Lussier wrote:
>>
>>>>> Please vote! Those who care to respond, please just say "YES" or
>>"NO"
>>>>> to the whole proposal below.  A "YES" vote means changes to be done
>>>>> now as outlined below.  "NO" means let's postpone until the website
>>>>> re- architecture or some other time.  Also, let's keep the vote to
>>>>> the web and communications team, and then notify the general list
>>of outcomes.
>>>
>>> I don't think we need to put this out to the general list for a vote,
>>> but I don't see why we need to restrict this vote to web team members
>>> either. I'm assuming there are people who are not "official" members
>>> of the web team subscribed to this list who may be following along
>>and
>>> have an interest in the result. I think they should have the
>>> opportunity to vote as well. As a non-developer, I have appreciated
>>> the fact that I've occasionally been able to give a +1 to issues
>>affecting my organization during developer meetings.
>>> I would like to extend that same opportunity to others in this forum.
>>>
>>>>> Please vote! Those who care to respond, please just say "YES" or
>>"NO"
>>>>> to the whole proposal below.  A "YES" vote means changes to be done
>>>>> now as outlined below.  "NO" means let's postpone until the website
>>>>> re- architecture or some other time.  Also, let's keep the vote to
>>>>> the web and communications team, and then notify the general list
>>of outcomes.
>>>>> I just want resolution and action, not endless discussion that ends
>>>>> in paralysis
>>>
>>> -1 Until the site is redesigned, I'm fine with keeping this space as
>>a
>>> place where we can rotate things we want to highlight on the site.
>>> Perhaps we can find something else to highlight in this spot in
>>> another month or two before we want to start pushing the 2013
>>conference.
>>>
>>> Kathy
>>> -------------------------------------------------------------
>>> Kathy Lussier
>>> Project Coordinator
>>> Massachusetts Library Network Cooperative
>>> (508) 756-0172
>>> (508) 755-3721 (fax)
>>> klussier at masslnc.org
>>> IM: kmlussier (AOL & Yahoo)
>>> Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/kmlussier
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: evergreen-web-team-bounces at list.evergreen-ils.org
>>>>> [mailto:evergreen-web-team-bounces at list.evergreen-ils.org] On
>>Behalf
>>>>> Of Lazar, Alexey Vladimirovich
>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, May 22, 2012 10:59 AM
>>>>> To: Evergreen Community Web Team Email List
>>>>> Subject: Re: [Evergreen-web-team] Donation Button on Home Page
>>>>>
>>>>> Well, here is my attempt to be constructive.  Let's get this
>>>>> resolved one way or the other.  Let's make it a simple vote.  Since
>>>>> I originally brought up this topic, here is an outline of the issue
>>>>> and a proposed solution.
>>>>>
>>>>> Please vote! Those who care to respond, please just say "YES" or
>>"NO"
>>>>> to the whole proposal below.  A "YES" vote means changes to be done
>>>>> now as outlined below.  "NO" means let's postpone until the website
>>>>> re- architecture or some other time.  Also, let's keep the vote to
>>>>> the web and communications team, and then notify the general list
>>of outcomes.
>>>>> I just want resolution and action, not endless discussion that ends
>>>>> in paralysis.
>>>>>
>>>>> ISSUES:
>>>>>
>>>>> 1. The SFC tree occupies prime real estate on the Evergreen project
>>>>> front page.  Because of its size in relation to other page
>>elements,
>>>>> it draws significant attention to itself and competes with the
>>>>> actual Evergreen primary logo on top.  Rule of thumb: main brand
>>>>> should be more prominent than external or secondary brand elements.
>>>>>
>>>>> 2. By having at least 3 links on the front page pointing to the
>>>>> donations page (top drop-down, tree and under the tree in quick
>>>>> links) we are very strongly emphasizing the monetary donation
>>>>> aspect, more so than anything else on that page, at least as
>>>>> measured by number of links.
>>>>>
>>>>> GUIDING PRINCIPLE:
>>>>>
>>>>> - Encourage monetary donations, but do not emphasize them over
>>other
>>>>> types of involvement, the Evergreen brand or other portions of the
>>>>> site.
>>>>>
>>>>> PROPOSAL:
>>>>>
>>>>> 1. Permanently move the SFC tree off the front page. The SFC tree
>>>>> will be featured on the About page and on the Support page only.
>>>>>
>>>>> 2. Place the Paypal and the Google donation buttons underneath the
>>>>> Quick Links section on the left.
>>>>>
>>>>> 3. Remove the Donate to Evergreen text link from the Quick Links
>>menu.
>>>>>
>>>>> EXPECTED OUTCOMES:
>>>>>
>>>>> 1. The SFC logo is no longer a strong focus on the front page, but
>>>>> we preserve it on other pages of the site to demonstrate
>>relationship.
>>>>>
>>>>> 2. Clearly recognizable Paypal and Google donate buttons are
>>present
>>>>> on the front page and other pages.
>>>>>
>>>>> 3. The monetary aspect gets equal emphasis to other topics of the
>>>>> Evergreen website.
>>>>>
>>>>> Above said, let's keep in mind that we are not talking about
>>>>> building a marble palace to last a 1000 years.  When it comes to
>>>>> websites, I am always in favor of (thoughtful) change and
>>consistent
>>>>> progress.  If the outcome is not as expected, we can always
>>>>> reevaluate and change in the future.
>>>>>
>>>>> So, I vote do to these changes now, and later use the same
>>strategic
>>>>> approach for future website changes.
>>>>>
>>>>> So, with your responses, please yes/no, or +1/-1 only, no matter
>>the
>>>>> reasons for your vote.  Let's get it done!
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks for your time.
>>>>>
>>>>> Alexey Lazar
>>>>> PALS
>>>>> Information System Developer and Integrator
>>>>> 507-389-2907
>>>>> http://www.mnpals.org/
>>>>>
>>>>> On May 21, 2012, at 12:28 , Lori Bowen Ayre wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi All,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'm writing to get a broader range of opinions on the Evergreen
>>>>>> home
>>>>> page and how we invite donations.  Right now, there is a big SFC
>>>>> logo (the "other" tree on the home page) on the left side
>>underneath
>>>>> our header with the words "Support Evergreen" underneath.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Instead of having the SFC logo prominently placed on our home
>>page,
>>>>>> I
>>>>> would like to suggest we put a generic orange DONATE button like
>>you
>>>>> see on the next page (if you were to click on the SFC logo) above
>>>>> the Quick Links on the right side of the page.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I think it confuses matters have the SFC logo take up so much
>>space
>>>>> on our home page and if you don't know who's logo it is...it
>>doesn't
>>>>> even make any sense!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I've checked several of the other SFC member libraries and none of
>>>>> them use the SFC logo on their home page nor on the page where they
>>>>> accept donations.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Lori
>>>>>>
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>>>>>> Lori Bowen Ayre //
>>>>>> Library Technology Consultant / The Galecia Group Oversight Board
>>&
>>>>>> Communications Committee / Evergreen
>>>>>> (707) 763-6869 // Lori.Ayre at galecia.com
>>>>>> Availability:  http://tungle.me/lori.ayre
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Specializing in open source ILS solutions, RFID, filtering,
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