[Evergreen-web-team] EG Site Map stuff
Jim Craner
jim at galecia.com
Fri Feb 8 11:44:29 EST 2013
Hi Ben,
Great tips, thanks!
-jc
> -------Original Message-------
> From: Ben Shum <bshum at biblio.org>
> To: evergreen-web-team at list.evergreen-ils.org
> Subject: Re: [Evergreen-web-team] EG Site Map stuff
> Sent: 08 Feb '13 11:30
>
> Hi Jim,
>
> I just wanted to mention that in reviewing the spreadsheet stats you
> included in the first email, I'd just want to make sure that we reviewed
> more than just a single day's collection of stats and also that we
> consider the potential reasons why pages are used the way they are. The
> top hit in the spreadsheet included is for the opac_help page, and if
> you click on the UI for "Open transitions" on that page, you can see
> that most of the entry points are coming from external library catalogs
> (specifically NC-Cardinal's in many cases). So it might help to know
> how people reach our site in addition to the fact that some pages are
> more popular than others.
>
> Another link next to the "Open Transitions" is the "Open Page Overlay"
> which is much more interesting to me. An example of that:
> http://evergreen-ils.org/piwik/index.php?
module=Overlay&period=month&date=today&idSite=1#l=http$3A$2F$2Fevergreen-ils.org$2F
>
> The page overlay seems to show a visual breakdown of how often clicks
> were made to various parts of the current website. I think between
> looking at top pages (and the entry/exit pages related to them) and also
> looking at the common points of interest on the visualized website, we
> can also get a good idea of how people use the site and form some
> directed actions based on past usage.
>
> -- Ben
>
> On 02/08/2013 11:06 AM, Jim Craner wrote:
> > Hi Anoop,
> >
> > Thanks for the back story - I definitely didn't go back that far in the archives when I was looking! :)
> >
> > I've added the Piwik link to the Web Team analytics page on the wiki. I've also got a spreadsheet version of the
stats
> > which I'll try to turn into a sitemap this weekend.
> >
> > Thanks again!
> > Jim
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >> -------Original Message-------
> >> From: Anoop Atre <aatre at esilibrary.com>
> >> To: Jim Craner <jim at galecia.com>, Evergreen Community Web Team Email List <evergreen-web-
team at list.evergreen-
> > ils.org>
> >> Subject: Re: [Evergreen-web-team] EG Site Map stuff
> >> Sent: 08 Feb '13 10:20
> >>
> >> Hi Jim
> >> This has come up previously and the web team has been aware of the Piwik
> >> setup for about a year if not longer. I think you were part of the group
> >> back then and it was just forgotten in the mists of time:
> >> http://georgialibraries.markmail.org/message/y5zc4zaqj5h3p2mf
> >>
> >> It's also been documented on the web administration information page:
> >> http://evergreen-ils.org/dokuwiki/doku.php?id=website_administration
> >>
> >> Cheers
> >>
> >> On 02/07/2013 08:23 PM, Jim Craner wrote:
> >> > Hi everyone,
> >> >
> >> > It looks like the idea of creating a list of content on the existing EG site for content migration has been batted
> > around
> >> > several times, and I know a few of you have worked on attempts to put this together, such as referencing the
git
> > repo
> >> > holding the web files.
> >> >
> >> > I tried a few different command line spiders and scrapers today without much success, and I am not so hot
with
> > regex'ing
> >> > so I explored a couple of alternatives, mainly: let's just look at the website analytics and see what is actually
being
> > visited
> >> > by
> >> > users.
> >> >
> >> > The first time this convo came up, it looks like we noted that the EG server had webalizer installed, but the last
> > report
> >> > generated was from 2011 (http://evergreen-ils.org/webalizer/).
> >> >
> >> > I poked around a bit and it appears that since then, somebody installed another open source analytics app
called
> > Piwik
> >> > (home page here: http://piwik.org/) which I had never even heard of before today but already think is
AWESOME.
> >> >
> >> > (I later googled "evergreen ILS" + "piwik" and hilariously found this gem from a developer on the EG IRC logs:
"We
> >> > should have webteam check out http://evergreen-ils.org/piwik to see what pages on the current site..." :-)
> >> >
> >> > Anyway, first go to: http://evergreen-ils.org/piwik
> >> >
> >> > Click on Actions > Pages to get a list of pages sorted by popularity... Note that you can expand the Dokuwiki
entry
> > at
> >> > the top so that you can drill down and see what the popular wiki pages are! At the very bottom of each table
is a
> > little
> >> > option to access that table in export format (several). I've attached a real quickie example of what we could
use
> > going
> >> > forward as a base (but I'd likely want to spend a few minutes doing some better searching/filtering in the
interface
> > before
> >> > creating an actual useful sitemap for us).
> >> >
> >> > More to follow...
> >> > Thanks!
> >> > Jim
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
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> >> --
> >> Anoop Atre
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> >> | aatre at esilibrary.com
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