SPAM: Re: [OPEN-ILS-DEV] Debian version/GCC version
Grace Liu
gyliu86 at hotmail.com
Sun Feb 18 22:05:05 EST 2007
Thanks, Don and Mike.
As to linux distro, if Debian is ok, I would prefer it to Gentoo as I am
more familar with it than Gentoo. But Debian Etch has some weird behaviours
and is still in testing while Debian sarge is more stable although its
kernel is a little left behind. From my site, the advantage for using Bebian
Etch is that it already has postgreSQL 8.1.6 while Debian Sarge has
postgreSQL 7.?.?. I can install postgreSQL 8.1.6 from testing sources list
to Debian Sarge but worry about the misfunctions as they are made from
different gcc versions which cause me some headache sometime.
Here comes 2 questions:
Question 1:
If I use Debian Sarge and postgreSQL 7.?.?, would the openils work on it? Or
the openils need the postgreSQL 8.1.? or above ?
Question 2:
I will try Debian Etch again with packages install for postgreSQL and
Apache2. One thing I may need Bill's or someone's help:
On Debian Etch, in stage: "Building and Installing the Source", after make
config step, I tried to make and got the error and I do not know how the
Bill's server pass it (make config). The error message has something like:
/usr/include/apr-1.0/apr.h:270: error: expected ‘=’, ‘,’, ‘;’, ‘asm’ or
‘__attribute__’ before ‘apr_off_t’
line 270 in file apr.h
typedef off64_t apr_off_t;
Detailed error message is:
=======================
/usr/include/apr-1.0/apr.h:270: error: expected ‘=’, ‘,’, ‘;’, ‘asm’ or
‘__attribute__’ before ‘apr_off_t’
In file included from /usr/include/apr-1.0/apr_file_io.h:29,
from /usr/include/apr-1.0/apr_network_io.h:26,
from /usr/include/apache2/httpd.h:53,
from apachetools.h:1,
from apachetools.c:1:
/usr/include/apr-1.0/apr_file_info.h:210: error: expected
specifier-qualifier-list before ‘apr_off_t’
In file included from /usr/include/apr-1.0/apr_network_io.h:26,
from /usr/include/apache2/httpd.h:53,
from apachetools.h:1,
from apachetools.c:1:
/usr/include/apr-1.0/apr_file_io.h:548: error: expected declaration
specifiers or ‘...’ before ‘apr_off_t’
/usr/include/apr-1.0/apr_file_io.h:740: error: expected declaration
specifiers or ‘...’ before ‘apr_off_t’
In file included from /usr/include/apache2/httpd.h:53,
from apachetools.h:1,
from apachetools.c:1:
/usr/include/apr-1.0/apr_network_io.h:545: error: expected declaration
specifiers or ‘...’ before ‘apr_off_t’
In file included from /usr/include/apr-1.0/apr_buckets.h:32,
from /usr/include/apache2/httpd.h:54,
from apachetools.h:1,
from apachetools.c:1:
/usr/include/apr-1.0/apr_mmap.h:134: error: expected declaration specifiers
or ‘...’ before ‘apr_off_t’
/usr/include/apr-1.0/apr_mmap.h:161: error: expected declaration specifiers
or ‘...’ before ‘apr_off_t’
In file included from /usr/include/apache2/httpd.h:54,
from apachetools.h:1,
from apachetools.c:1:
/usr/include/apr-1.0/apr_buckets.h:242: error: expected
specifier-qualifier-list before ‘apr_off_t’
/usr/include/apr-1.0/apr_buckets.h:706: error: expected declaration
specifiers or ‘...’ before ‘apr_off_t’
/usr/include/apr-1.0/apr_buckets.h:718: error: expected declaration
specifiers or ‘...’ before ‘apr_off_t’
/usr/include/apr-1.0/apr_buckets.h:754: error: expected declaration
specifiers or ‘...’ before ‘apr_off_t’
/usr/include/apr-1.0/apr_buckets.h:890: error: expected declaration
specifiers or ‘...’ before ‘apr_off_t’
/usr/include/apr-1.0/apr_buckets.h:891: error: expected declaration
specifiers or ‘...’ before ‘apr_off_t’
/usr/include/apr-1.0/apr_buckets.h:1168: error: expected declaration
specifiers or ‘...’ before ‘apr_off_t’
/usr/include/apr-1.0/apr_buckets.h:1367: error: expected declaration
specifiers or ‘...’ before ‘apr_off_t’
/usr/include/apr-1.0/apr_buckets.h:1381: error: expected declaration
specifiers or ‘...’ before ‘apr_off_t’
/usr/include/apr-1.0/apr_buckets.h:1431: error: expected declaration
specifiers or ‘...’ before ‘apr_off_t’
/usr/include/apr-1.0/apr_buckets.h:1447: error: expected declaration
specifiers or ‘...’ before ‘apr_off_t’
In file included from apachetools.h:1,
from apachetools.c:1:
/usr/include/apache2/httpd.h:826: error: expected specifier-qualifier-list
before ‘apr_off_t’
In file included from /usr/include/apache2/http_core.h:32,
from apachetools.h:3,
from apachetools.c:1:
/usr/include/apache2/util_filter.h:142: error: expected declaration
specifiers or ‘...’ before ‘apr_off_t’
/usr/include/apache2/util_filter.h:299: error: expected declaration
specifiers or ‘...’ before ‘apr_off_t’
In file included from apachetools.h:3,
from apachetools.c:1:
/usr/include/apache2/http_core.h:229: error: expected ‘=’, ‘,’, ‘;’, ‘asm’
or ‘__attribute__’ before ‘ap_get_limit_req_body’
/usr/include/apache2/http_core.h:672: error: expected declaration specifiers
or ‘...’ before ‘apr_off_t’
In file included from apachetools.h:4,
from apachetools.c:1:
/usr/include/apache2/http_protocol.h:111: error: expected declaration
specifiers or ‘...’ before ‘apr_off_t’
/usr/include/apache2/http_protocol.h:203: error: expected declaration
specifiers or ‘...’ before ‘apr_off_t’
In file included from apachetools.h:6,
from apachetools.c:1:
/usr/include/apr-1.0/apr_strings.h:297: error: expected declaration
specifiers or ‘...’ before ‘apr_off_t’
/usr/include/apr-1.0/apr_strings.h:313: error: expected ‘)’ before ‘*’ token
/usr/include/apr-1.0/apr_strings.h:349: error: expected ‘)’ before ‘size’
apachetools.c: In function ‘apacheParseParms’:
apachetools.c:7: error: ‘request_rec’ has no member named ‘args’
make[2]: *** [apachetools.o] Error 1
make[1]: *** [gateway] Error 2
Grace
----- Original Message -----
From: "Mike Rylander" <mrylander at gmail.com>
To: <open-ils-dev at list.georgialibraries.org>
Sent: Sunday, February 18, 2007 6:31 PM
Subject: Re: [OPEN-ILS-DEV] Debian version/GCC version
On 2/18/07, Don McMorris <don.mcmorris at gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi Grace:
> Sorry for not being available when you IM'd.
>
> On 2/18/07, Grace Liu <gyliu86 at hotmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > Thanks, Bill. So, you are using Gentoo, not using Debian Sarge or Etch.
> > I
> > just want to keep the same environment with yours so that I can set up
> > the
> > system and maybe do some development on it.
> >
> > But I am confused as in the documentation wiki on openils.org. It
> > mentioned
> > "Install has been tested on Debian Testing and Unstable. Stable was
> > missing
> > a few packages that were needed. It can probably be done but there will
> > be
> > some extra software to install manually."
> > (http://open-ils.org/dokuwiki/doku.php?id=installing_prerequisites_on_debian)
> > and "This is a work in progress, I don't actually have Open-ILS running
> > on
> > Gentoo yet"
> > (http://open-ils.org/dokuwiki/doku.php?id=installing_prerequisites_on_gentoo)
>
> Apologies for the confusion Grace. PINES uses (and develops against)
> Gentoo. The Debian build was attempted (I forget by whom though), and
> the Wiki information is just copy-and-paste of what he did.
PINES production servers are Debian (Etch, I believe).
/etc/debian_version says testing/unstable. They have a custom kernel
and use GCC 4.1.2 (Bill's message up-thread).
I think some of Bill's dev servers are Debian now, but I still develop
exclusively on a Gentoo box. The GCC on my dev box is slightly
different than Bill's Gentoo GCC (gcc --version says "gcc (GCC) 3.4.4
(Gentoo 3.4.4-r1, ssp-3.4.4-1.0, pie-8.7.8)") but we haven't
experienced any GCC related failures, as far as I know.
>
> >
> > Then, I need more information on the environment:
> > 1) Linux version (Gentoo? Debian?, linux kernel 2.6.16? /2.6.19?)
> > 2) Apache2 version
> > 3) PostgreSQL version
> I believe success has been greatest in Gentoo w/a 2.6.x kernel.
> Apache 2.0.x was used for a while, but Bill did say in a fairly recent
> e-mail to the list saying they're starting to utilize some of the 2.2
> features (he'll write back to clarify what's best I'm sure).
I don't see any reason that any particular kernel or distro will be
"better" -- the only difference of substance (as far as Evergreen
proper is concerned) will be the ease of fulfilling the dependencies.
I prefer Gentoo's emerge, but apt works well too and I'm sure that
RedHat/Fedora can be made to work. Another list member is making
headway on a Solaris installation, too. The best advice in my opinion
is "use what you know".
> >
> > I want to install all apache2 and postgreSQL using package/binary (much
> > easier and faster) according to the documentation wiki on openils.org, .
> > Any
> > problem or concern with this method?
> Most of the work has been done from source, but binaries should be
> doable. I don't anticipate any problems with Postgres as Binary, but
> Miker can verify this (I think he's the DB guru...).
Distribution built Postgres packages will work fine (with one
caveat*), and the most recent release of the 8.1 series (8.1.8 is the
latest available directly from http://postgresql.org at the moment) is
the best choice. I am beginning to look at the 8.2 series -- there
are some exciting indexing options in 8.2 -- but it is mostly
untested. I expect it would work fine, but we I haven't tested
thoroughly yet.
* [I build my own PG due to some limitations in indexed text field
size -- not full-text indexing, but exact field BTree indexing used
for sorting purposes. I change the BLCKSZ #define to 32k (up from the
default of 8k), which can be done by editing
src/include/pg_config_manual.h in the Postgres source tarball before
building. This allows text fields of up to (about) 10k to be indexed
directly, which is approximately the max size of an entire MARC
record. I'll be looking at changing the way sorting is used, which
will remove the need for this safeguard.]
> As far as Apache, you should be able to load modules like you've
> attempted, but I think it's preferred to have the stuff compiled in.
> Bill should comment.
> >
> > Also, if possible, could send me following files your are using now(I
> > just
> > want to config the system correctly and easily):
> > 1) evergreen_vhost.conf
> > 2) evergreen_vhost_ssl.conf
> > 3) opensrf_core.xml
> > 4) openils.xml
> > 5) opensrf.xml
> Bill said something about putting these in CVS. Not sure if it's done
> yet...
> >
> > By the way, in your CVS repository
> > (http://open-ils.org/cgi-bin/viewcvs.cgi/), there is a tar
> > file. Every time, you commit to the CVS, do you also make a tar file
> > using
> > the new committed files?
> If we're thinking of the same one, I think the viewcvs script
> generates this tar on-the-fly when you request it. Because the public
> CVS is updated hourly from the internal one, it is technically
> possible for a tar you download to be different than that somebody
> else downloads an hour later.
Exactly right. For stable release tarballs, just download the latest
from the Releases section of http://open-ils.org/cvs.html .
> >
> > Too many questions, but I really need your help.
> No problem at all Grace! We look forward to working with you and being
> able to help each-other out. If you have IRC capability, consider
> checking into #GAPINES on the freenode network (it's not terribly
> active, but replies may be slightly quicker).
>
> --Don
>
> >
> > Best,
> > Grace
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ________________________________
> > Date: Sun, 18 Feb 2007 11:18:11 -0500
> > From: billserickson at gmail.com
> > To: open-ils-dev at list.georgialibraries.org
> > Subject: Re: [OPEN-ILS-DEV] Debian version/GCC version
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On 2/18/07, Grace Liu <gyliu86 at hotmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >
> > Hi
> >
> > What is the debian version/kernel version and GCC version you are using
> > now
> > and what is the latest debian version/kernel version and GCC version the
> > openils was tested that works?
> >
> >
> > Mostly Linux kernel = 2.6.16
> > We're currently testing 2.6.19
> >
> > ---------------
> >
> > GCC = gcc version 4.1.2 20060613 (prerelease) (Debian 4.1.1-5)
> >
> > We're testing gcc version 4.1.2 20061028 (prerelease) (Debian 4.1.1-19)
> >
> > Also, for what it's worth, our Gentoo test boxes use gcc version 3.4.3
> > 20041125 (Gentoo 3.4.3-r1, ssp-3.4.3-0, pie-8.7.7),
> >
> > Note that GCC 4 prints a lot of warnings when you compile (X and Y
> > differ in
> > signedness...). You can ignore those.
> >
> > -bill
> >
> >
> > --
> > Bill Erickson
> > PINES Systems Developer
> > Georgia Public Library Service
> > billserickson at gmail.com
> > http://open-ils.org
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