[OPEN-ILS-DEV] Hours for Org units

[Frances Dean McNamara]

Out of curiosity, I looked at our current system.  It displays the time as 8:30 AM to 12:45 AM.  In the tables it records number of minutes  510 for opening time and 45 for closing time.  I guess it just assumes it's the next day.  Don't know why they would do it that way instead of the suggested offset for after midnight.

Frances McNamara
University of Chicago

-----Original Message-----
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Sent: Sunday, July 27, 2008 11:41 AM
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Subject: Re: [OPEN-ILS-DEV] Hours for Org units

Or you could gather times in a special bogus format - For a library
open 8AM - 2AM, you could specify open hours as 08:00 to 26:00:00, and
make anything that checks open hours comprehend this magic incantation.

I have vague recollections that at least one Prominent (North
American?) Enterprise ILS Vendor (PNAEILSV?) handled the problem this
way, though maybe it's not what we're striving for.

Neither of these solutions handles the case that some smaller
libraries have, with multiple open intervals per day. Or -- stated
alternately -- an open interval with gaps.

Since we've ripped the gyprock (or, 'drywall' to Americans) off the
wall with the open hours plumbing, do we want to include this reno
while we have the wall open? :)

~B

Quoting Mike Rylander <mrylander at gmail.com>:

> On Sun, Jul 27, 2008 at 2:18 AM, Faiz Ishaq <Faiz at szabist.ac.ae> wrote:
>> Hi Mike,
>>
>> Perhaps a more general approach would be to add a 'Next day' checkbox to
>> the closing time entry. Another possibility is to ask for 'next day' if
>> the entered closing time is earlier than the opening time.
>
> This would work.  I also thought of another mechanism last night:
> instead of a close time, gather an open time and an open interval.
> Frances' hours of operation would "open be 8am, open for 17 hours."
> Changing all uses of the close fields so that the calendar time is
> calculated in one addition would be simpler than testing for a
> separate flag and adding a day, I think.
>
> --miker
>
>>
>> Cheers, Faiz Ishaq
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: "Mike Rylander" <mrylander at gmail.com>
>> To: "Evergreen Development Discussion List" <open-ils-
>> dev at list.georgialibraries.org>
>> Date: Sat, 26 Jul 2008 21:26:24 -0400
>> Subject: Re: [OPEN-ILS-DEV] Hours for Org units
>>
>>> On Wed, Jul 23, 2008 at 11:50 AM, Frances Dean McNamara
>>> <fdmcnama at uchicago.edu> wrote:
>>> > I am setting up some test Circulation for our installation.  I want
>>> to set
>>> > up some hours for our Libraries.
>>> >
>>> > During the regular school year the libraries are open from 8 AM to 1
>>> AM the
>>> > next day.  Will that be a problem for Evergreen?
>>> >
>>> > During the summer we close earlier but when I went to set up one set
>>> of
>>> > hours, it made me wonder if the 1 AM closing will be an issue.
>>> >
>>>
>>> This won't work today.  The first thought that came to mind was to be
>>> able to supply a "hours after midnight" offset to be applied when the
>>> closing time is 00:00.  This would touch a few deep places, though,
>>> and would require a significant effort to make sure everything works
>>> as expected (though it would likely be a relatively small change to
>>> the code).
>>>
>>> Suggestions for alternate approaches would be appreciated! :)
>>>
>>> --
>>> Mike Rylander
>>>  | VP, Research and Design
>>>  | Equinox Software, Inc. / The Evergreen Experts
>>>  | phone: 1-877-OPEN-ILS (673-6457)
>>>  | email: miker at esilibrary.com
>>>  | web: http://www.esilibrary.com
>>
>>
>
>
>
> --
> Mike Rylander
>  | VP, Research and Design
>  | Equinox Software, Inc. / The Evergreen Experts
>  | phone: 1-877-OPEN-ILS (673-6457)
>  | email: miker at esilibrary.com
>  | web: http://www.esilibrary.com
>



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