[OPEN-ILS-DEV] [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Web Client (Sprint 1) demo - initial testing results

[Mike Rylander]

On Thu, Oct 2, 2014 at 1:58 PM, Kathy Lussier <klussier at masslnc.org> wrote:

>  Hi all,
>
> Sorry to be replying to an older thread, but I came across it while
> looking at column pickers in the web client.
>
>  ITEMS OUT SCREEN - COLUMN PICKER:
>> - I didn't go through every option, but there were obvious differences
>> between the current staff client and the web client and definitely some
>> columns missing that are in the current staff client.
>>
>
>  There are a few things missing (like checkout/checkin workstation and
> circ or renewal worktation), and the list of values in the web based client
> is not ordered alphabetically.  We can fix the latter and the former is due
> to one of the known challenges going to a web interface.  A longer and more
> explanatory email to come on that.
>
>
> Did we ever get the longer and more explanatory e-mail? I'm guessing it
> has something to do with cutting back our column picker options?
>
>
I didn't go into a ton of detail, but I did respond, I'm pretty sure.
However, I /did/ add the missing columns and add full-list sorting.  Those
commits are in a working branch that is waiting to be merged into master.


>  - Show All Columns and Hide All Columns don't appear to do anything
>>
>
>  They surely don't.  And honestly, I would not recommend anyone ever use
> "show all columns" - do we really need that option when we have 60+ column
> options?  And, now that I think about it... Has anyone ever user hide all
> columns except after you accidentally chose show all columns? Any opinions
> on keeping those functions?
>
> +1 to removing those options.
>
>
I tend to agree, though I think it might be worth while for show-all to be
possible for some UIs with just a few columns.  Thoughts?

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> Kathy
>
> Kathy Lussier
> Project Coordinator
> Massachusetts Library Network Cooperative(508) 343-0128klussier at masslnc.org
> Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/kmlussier
> #evergreen IRC: kmlussier
>
> On 8/27/2014 9:13 AM, Grace Dunbar wrote:
>
> Answers inline.
>
>
> On Mon, Aug 25, 2014 at 6:32 PM, McCanna, Terran <
> tmccanna at georgialibraries.org> wrote:
>>
>> MAIN SCREEN OF INTERFACE:
>> - Register Patron(s) link missing
>> - Pull List for Hold Requests link missing
>> - Catalog Search field missing
>> - Advanced Search link missing
>> - Item Status link missing
>>
>
>  To be clear, I assume you mean that all of the above should be added as
> "quick links" from the splash page?
> These actions
> - Register Patrons
> - Pull List for Hold Requests
> - Catalog Search
> - Advanced Search
> - Item Status
> are all available from the menus at the top.
>
>  Since we're moving to a browser client and have the opportunity to
> re-think the splash page I think this might be a good time to get community
> input as to what actions should be included and how those should be
> organized.
> Should there even be a splash page with a browser client and, if so, what
> should be included as "quick links" by default?
>
>
>
>> - Is the large Equinox banner across the bottom of the screen present
>> because it's being hosted on an Equinox server, or is this something you
>> have added to the default interface?
>
>
> Equinox would never brand the Evergreen open source product with its name.
>
> Never.
> This is simply a style banner to indicate that we are hosting this
> community test server.  I'm sorry if that wasn't clear.
>
>
>> MENUS:
>> - Search Catalog link missing from Search dropdown menu
>>
>
>  We can add that.  (Right now it appears under Cataloging, for those who
> are just following the email discussion)  In the current client a link to
> search the catalog appears under both Cataloging and Search menus. Should
> we keep them both or eliminate one?
>
>  PATRON FUNCTIONS:
>> - When creating a new message on an account there is an empty dropdown
>> box on the right side of the pop-up window - what is that for? I don't seem
>> to be able to do anything with it.
>>
>
>  What Bill said. It exists in the current client for custom penalties. We
> should probably put a label on it at the very least.
>
>
>> - the Message pop-up window is missing the field to record staff initials
>> that is in the current staff client
>>
>
>  Good catch.  We'll add that.
>
>
>> ITEMS OUT SCREEN - COLUMN PICKER:
>> - I didn't go through every option, but there were obvious differences
>> between the current staff client and the web client and definitely some
>> columns missing that are in the current staff client.
>>
>
>  There are a few things missing (like checkout/checkin workstation and
> circ or renewal worktation), and the list of values in the web based client
> is not ordered alphabetically.  We can fix the latter and the former is due
> to one of the known challenges going to a web interface.  A longer and more
> explanatory email to come on that.
>
>
>
>> - Show All Columns and Hide All Columns don't appear to do anything
>>
>
>  They surely don't.  And honestly, I would not recommend anyone ever use
> "show all columns" - do we really need that option when we have 60+ column
> options?  And, now that I think about it... Has anyone ever user hide all
> columns except after you accidentally chose show all columns? Any opinions
> on keeping those functions?
>
>  - There is an optional column for "Due Date/Time" - what is that for?
>> (It does not display the date and time from the normal "Due Date" column.)
>>
>
>   The labels come from a different place, since the code is different. The
> different place they come from calls that column "Due Date/Time" -- it's
> the same place as the report output gets its column labels. We can choose
> to allow both columns, or just one, and we can change the labels.  Opinions
> on the this?
>
>
>
>> - 'Check Out Date/Time' column is empty when turned on
>>
>
>  Bug. Will be fixed.
>
>
>> - 'Check Out Date/Time' should be 'Checkout Date/Time' to be consistent
>> with other terminology
>>
>
>  Can do.
>
>
>> - 'Check In Date/Time' should be 'Checkin Date/Time' to be consistent
>> with other terminology
>>
>
>   Does this even belong on this column picker?  I'm probably missing an
> obvious use case but when would you have an item in the "items out" list on
> this interface that has a checkin time?
>
>
>> - There is also a 'Checkin Scan Date/Time' - is that different from
>> 'Checkin Date/time' ?
>>
>
>  Checkin scan date/time is the time the item was actually scanned. The
> other will give you the checkin date/time after any backdating.
>
>
>>
>> RENEW ITEM WITH SELECTED DUE DATE:
>> - date is off (example: select November 5, 2014 as the new date and it
>> records it as November 4, 2014)
>>
>
>  You're correct.  That's a bug.  Fixing...
>
>
>> - does it matter what format the date is entered in? is there going to be
>> a calendar picker next to date fields like this?
>>
>
>  See Bill's answer. :)
>
>
>>
>>
>> SCAN ITEM AS MISSING PIECES:
>> - it displays a field called Patron Barcode rather than Item Barcode
>>
>
>  Oops!  It surely does.  We will fix the mislabeling.
>
>
>  Thanks for the testing and feedback!
> Grace
>
>
>
>> Terran McCanna
>> PINES Program Manager
>> Georgia Public Library Service
>> 1800 Century Place, Suite 150
>> Atlanta, GA 30345
>> 404-235-7138
>> tmccanna at georgialibraries.org
>>
>
>
>
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> Grace Dunbar, Vice President
> Equinox Software, Inc.  -  The Open Source Experts
> gdunbar at esilibrary.com
> 1-877-OPEN-ILS    www.esilibrary.com
>
>
> --
> Grace Dunbar, Vice President
> Equinox Software, Inc.  -  The Open Source Experts
> gdunbar at esilibrary.com
> 1-877-OPEN-ILS    www.esilibrary.com
>
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