[OPEN-ILS-DEV] [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Web Client (Sprint 1) demo - initial testing results

Kathy Lussier klussier at masslnc.org
Thu Oct 2 16:23:00 EDT 2014


Mike,

> +1 to removing those options.
>
>
> I tend to agree, though I think it might be worth while for show-all 
> to be possible for some UIs with just a few columns.  Thoughts?
>

Maybe in UI's that have 10 or fewer column picker options?

Kathy

Kathy Lussier
Project Coordinator
Massachusetts Library Network Cooperative
(508) 343-0128
klussier at masslnc.org
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On 10/2/2014 2:05 PM, Mike Rylander wrote:
> On Thu, Oct 2, 2014 at 1:58 PM, Kathy Lussier <klussier at masslnc.org 
> <mailto:klussier at masslnc.org>> wrote:
>
>     Hi all,
>
>     Sorry to be replying to an older thread, but I came across it
>     while looking at column pickers in the web client.
>
>>         ITEMS OUT SCREEN - COLUMN PICKER:
>>         - I didn't go through every option, but there were obvious
>>         differences between the current staff client and the web
>>         client and definitely some columns missing that are in the
>>         current staff client.
>>
>>
>>     There are a few things missing (like checkout/checkin workstation
>>     and circ or renewal worktation), and the list of values in the
>>     web based client is not ordered alphabetically.  We can fix the
>>     latter and the former is due to one of the known challenges going
>>     to a web interface.  A longer and more explanatory email to come
>>     on that.
>
>     Did we ever get the longer and more explanatory e-mail? I'm
>     guessing it has something to do with cutting back our column
>     picker options?
>
>
> I didn't go into a ton of detail, but I did respond, I'm pretty sure.  
> However, I /did/ add the missing columns and add full-list sorting.  
> Those commits are in a working branch that is waiting to be merged 
> into master.
>
>>         - Show All Columns and Hide All Columns don't appear to do
>>         anything
>>
>>
>>     They surely don't.  And honestly, I would not recommend anyone
>>     ever use "show all columns" - do we really need that option when
>>     we have 60+ column options?  And, now that I think about it...
>>     Has anyone ever user hide all columns except after you
>>     accidentally chose show all columns? Any opinions on keeping
>>     those functions?
>     +1 to removing those options.
>
>
> I tend to agree, though I think it might be worth while for show-all 
> to be possible for some UIs with just a few columns.  Thoughts?
>
> -- 
> Mike Rylander
>  | Director of Research and Development
>  | Equinox Software, Inc. / Your Library's Guide to Open Source
>  | phone:  1-877-OPEN-ILS (673-6457)
>  | email: miker at esilibrary.com <mailto:miker at esilibrary.com>
>  | web: http://www.esilibrary.com <http://www.esilibrary.com/>
>
>     Kathy
>
>     Kathy Lussier
>     Project Coordinator
>     Massachusetts Library Network Cooperative
>     (508) 343-0128  <tel:%28508%29%20343-0128>
>     klussier at masslnc.org  <mailto:klussier at masslnc.org>
>     Twitter:http://www.twitter.com/kmlussier
>     #evergreen IRC: kmlussier
>
>     On 8/27/2014 9:13 AM, Grace Dunbar wrote:
>>     Answers inline.
>>
>>
>>     On Mon, Aug 25, 2014 at 6:32 PM, McCanna, Terran
>>     <tmccanna at georgialibraries.org> wrote:
>>
>>         MAIN SCREEN OF INTERFACE:
>>         - Register Patron(s) link missing
>>         - Pull List for Hold Requests link missing
>>         - Catalog Search field missing
>>         - Advanced Search link missing
>>         - Item Status link missing
>>
>>
>>     To be clear, I assume you mean that all of the above should be
>>     added as "quick links" from the splash page?
>>     These actions
>>     - Register Patrons
>>     - Pull List for Hold Requests
>>     - Catalog Search
>>     - Advanced Search
>>     - Item Status
>>     are all available from the menus at the top.
>>
>>     Since we're moving to a browser client and have the opportunity
>>     to re-think the splash page I think this might be a good time to
>>     get community input as to what actions should be included and how
>>     those should be organized.
>>     Should there even be a splash page with a browser client and, if
>>     so, what should be included as "quick links" by default?
>>
>>         - Is the large Equinox banner across the bottom of the screen
>>         present because it's being hosted on an Equinox server, or is
>>         this something you have added to the default interface? 
>>
>>     Equinox would never brand the Evergreen open source product with
>>     its name.
>>     Never.
>>     This is simply a style banner to indicate that we are hosting
>>     this community test server.  I'm sorry if that wasn't clear.
>>
>>         MENUS:
>>         - Search Catalog link missing from Search dropdown menu
>>
>>
>>     We can add that.  (Right now it appears under Cataloging, for
>>     those who are just following the email discussion)  In the
>>     current client a link to search the catalog appears under both
>>     Cataloging and Search menus. Should we keep them both or
>>     eliminate one?
>>
>>         PATRON FUNCTIONS:
>>         - When creating a new message on an account there is an empty
>>         dropdown box on the right side of the pop-up window - what is
>>         that for? I don't seem to be able to do anything with it.
>>
>>
>>     What Bill said. It exists in the current client for custom
>>     penalties. We should probably put a label on it at the very least.
>>
>>         - the Message pop-up window is missing the field to record
>>         staff initials that is in the current staff client
>>
>>
>>     Good catch.  We'll add that.
>>
>>         ITEMS OUT SCREEN - COLUMN PICKER:
>>         - I didn't go through every option, but there were obvious
>>         differences between the current staff client and the web
>>         client and definitely some columns missing that are in the
>>         current staff client.
>>
>>
>>     There are a few things missing (like checkout/checkin workstation
>>     and circ or renewal worktation), and the list of values in the
>>     web based client is not ordered alphabetically.  We can fix the
>>     latter and the former is due to one of the known challenges going
>>     to a web interface.  A longer and more explanatory email to come
>>     on that.
>>
>>         - Show All Columns and Hide All Columns don't appear to do
>>         anything
>>
>>
>>     They surely don't.  And honestly, I would not recommend anyone
>>     ever use "show all columns" - do we really need that option when
>>     we have 60+ column options? And, now that I think about it... Has
>>     anyone ever user hide all columns except after you accidentally
>>     chose show all columns? Any opinions on keeping those functions?
>>
>>         - There is an optional column for "Due Date/Time" - what is
>>         that for? (It does not display the date and time from the
>>         normal "Due Date" column.)
>>
>>     The labels come from a different place, since the code is
>>     different. The different place they come from calls that column
>>     "Due Date/Time" -- it's the same place as the report output gets
>>     its column labels. We can choose to allow both columns, or just
>>     one, and we can change the labels. Opinions on the this?
>>
>>         - 'Check Out Date/Time' column is empty when turned on
>>
>>
>>     Bug. Will be fixed.
>>
>>         - 'Check Out Date/Time' should be 'Checkout Date/Time' to be
>>         consistent with other terminology
>>
>>
>>     Can do.
>>
>>         - 'Check In Date/Time' should be 'Checkin Date/Time' to be
>>         consistent with other terminology
>>
>>
>>      Does this even belong on this column picker?  I'm probably
>>     missing an obvious use case but when would you have an item in
>>     the "items out" list on this interface that has a checkin time?
>>
>>         - There is also a 'Checkin Scan Date/Time' - is that
>>         different from 'Checkin Date/time' ?
>>
>>
>>     Checkin scan date/time is the time the item was actually scanned.
>>     The other will give you the checkin date/time after any backdating.
>>
>>
>>         RENEW ITEM WITH SELECTED DUE DATE:
>>         - date is off (example: select November 5, 2014 as the new
>>         date and it records it as November 4, 2014)
>>
>>
>>     You're correct.  That's a bug. Fixing...
>>
>>         - does it matter what format the date is entered in? is there
>>         going to be a calendar picker next to date fields like this?
>>
>>
>>     See Bill's answer. :)
>>
>>
>>
>>         SCAN ITEM AS MISSING PIECES:
>>         - it displays a field called Patron Barcode rather than Item
>>         Barcode
>>
>>
>>     Oops!  It surely does.  We will fix the mislabeling.
>>
>>
>>     Thanks for the testing and feedback!
>>     Grace
>>
>>
>>
>>         Terran McCanna
>>         PINES Program Manager
>>         Georgia Public Library Service
>>         1800 Century Place, Suite 150
>>         Atlanta, GA 30345
>>         404-235-7138 <tel:404-235-7138>
>>         tmccanna at georgialibraries.org
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>     -- 
>>     Grace Dunbar, Vice President
>>     Equinox Software, Inc.  -  The Open Source Experts
>>     gdunbar at esilibrary.com
>>     1-877-OPEN-ILS www.esilibrary.com <http://www.esilibrary.com>
>>
>>
>>     -- 
>>     Grace Dunbar, Vice President
>>     Equinox Software, Inc.  -  The Open Source Experts
>>     gdunbar at esilibrary.com <mailto:gdunbar at esilibrary.com>
>>     1-877-OPEN-ILS www.esilibrary.com <http://www.esilibrary.com>
>>
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