[OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] SPAM RE: Costs

Tue Jun 15 09:37:33 EDT 2010

The document Cynthia attached contained a universal truth in the very
first bullet point.  Staff may intend to test the system, but they will
not get around to it.  In spite of ample time to test, our staff has
been terrible about getting on there and learning how to use it.  Most
seem to think that they will "just pick up on it" when we go live.  We
have really had to stay on top of them and watch while they have trained
to keep them from wandering off or just doing a 5-10 minute training and
claim that they are prepared.

Deanna

From: open-ils-general-bounces at list.georgialibraries.org
[mailto:open-ils-general-bounces at list.georgialibraries.org] On Behalf Of
Cynthia Williamson
Sent: Tuesday, June 15, 2010 8:24 AM
To: Evergreen Discussion Group
Subject: Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Costs

Hi Georgette - Like Deanna said, cost is different for everyone.  We
spent @ $7500CAD on our server, 2 full-time people worked on getting
things up and going for the better part of a year - that allowed us to
keep up other parts of our jobs.  We went live well before our support
contract with our former ILS vendor expired - that allowed us to do a
very soft launch and do lots of troubleshooting/tweaking and some more
staff training.  We did contract with Equinox for some programming
(booking module @ $8000USD) but did not spend any money on training or
migration. The EG community has been a big help, I can't really say that
we did it on our own.  I've attached a list that I've shared with some
other folks that gives some details of our process, please use it/share
it as needed.
Cheers, Cynthia
Mohawk College, 
Hamilton, ON

On Tue, Jun 15, 2010 at 8:47 AM, Georgette Rogers
<GRogers at libertylakewa.gov> wrote:

Thank you so much for the reply.  I am not authorized to send out an
RFP, but I will pass the information to my director and she will take it
from there.  I really appreciate all the information that has been
coming to me from the list serve.  I will probably have more questons.

Thanks again

Georgette

Georgette Rogers

Circulation Supervisor

Liberty Lake Municipal Library

23123 E  Mission Ave

Liberty Lake, WA 99019

509-435-0778

1-866-729-8507

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From: open-ils-general-bounces at list.georgialibraries.org
[open-ils-general-bounces at list.georgialibraries.org] On Behalf Of Deanna
Frazee [dfrazee at ci.killeen.tx.us]
Sent: Monday, June 14, 2010 7:07 PM
To: Evergreen Discussion Group
Subject: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] ***SPAM*** RE: Costs

There really isn't a set cost.  We bought a server, paid Alpha-G for
migration services and have self-trained.  But it has not been a simple
process.  There have been numerous delays as I dealt with issues that
left us too short-staffed to cope with a migration at times and as we
have worked with Alpha-G to get things right so that we can go live with
as few interruptions to service for our patrons as possible on the
go-live day (next Monday). 

There has been some training out there for Evergreen, but much of what
you will need to do is look at the manuals that other libraries have
created in-house.  From there, you may have to just experiment with it
to see how it works. 

Since this is not an out-of-the-box solution, the price will be unique
to your situation.  Your best bet is to send out an RFP with the details
you mentioned below as well as infornation on your current ILS.  

Evergreen offers a lot of flexibility, but it is for those intrepid
enough to take on an ILS without formal documentation and without the
sort of full-time training staff that you often get with an established
proprietary system.  These things will come with time, but they aren't
here now.

Deanna Frazee
Killeen City Library System

Killeen, TX

dfrazee at ci.killeen.tx.us

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From: open-ils-general-bounces at list.georgialibraries.org on behalf of
Georgette Rogers
Sent: Mon 6/14/2010 5:39 PM
To: open-ils-general at list.georgialibraries.org
Subject: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Costs

Could anyone tell me the cost for implementation, self hosting, maitence
and training for the Evergreen system.  We are a 9,000 square foot
library, we have 28,000 items and about 5,000 patrons.

Thank you

Georgette

Georgette Rogers

Circulation Supervisor

Liberty Lake Municipal Library

23123 E  Mission Ave

Liberty Lake, WA 99019

509-435-0778

1-866-729-8507

-- 
"Many a man stumbles across the truth, then picks himself up and hurries
on as though nothing had happened." Winston Churchill

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