[OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] ***SPAM*** RE: generic training server with predictable data

[Georgette Rogers]

I like this idea.  We are still doing research, so if there was a demo we coudl practice on that would be greatly helpful in convincing the staff and the city this is the way to go.  We would also be prepared for installation and for training.

Great idea
Georgette Rogers
Circulation Supervisor
Liberty Lake Municipal Library
23123 E  Mission Ave
Liberty Lake, WA 99019
509-435-0778
1-866-729-8507
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From: open-ils-general-bounces at list.georgialibraries.org [open-ils-general-bounces at list.georgialibraries.org] On Behalf Of Lori Bowen Ayre [lori.ayre at galecia.com]
Sent: Monday, June 21, 2010 5:51 PM
To: Evergreen Discussion Group
Subject: Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] generic training server with predictable data

Oooooh.  Like that suggestion.  No reason we couldn't keep the same data set on an available training server AND on as part of the Evergreen source.

Lori

On Mon, Jun 21, 2010 at 5:45 PM, Dan Scott <dan at coffeecode.net<mailto:dan at coffeecode.net>> wrote:
On Mon, 2010-06-21 at 17:09 -0700, Lori Bowen Ayre wrote:
> Hi All,
>
> I posted info about this idea and got a big 'ol nothing in response so
> I wanted to try one more time to verify that it really is of no
> interest to anyone.

It is of interest, I just have a slight variation on your suggestion
which really hearkens back to a suggestion I pitched many moons ago. (I
think the first time might have been
http://markmail.org/message/dbwre7cqhmmnnlrv but I know I've discussed
it in several other forums since then...)

>  Here's the idea....as one of the RSCEL projects, were thinking of
> setting up a training server which would have a current version of
> Evergreen loaded, would be accessible to anyone (much like the demo
> servers) but we'd make sure we kept it totally current with one
> matching client software download.
>
>
> We'd also keep data in there that you could rely on being there for
> training (so we'd have to refresh it on some regular basis).
>  Eventually, we'd contribute some exercises that people could use in
> their training which would use that training server and data.
>
>
> The idea is that you would then not have to worry about how to train
> your people on your own Evergreen server at the same time you were
> trying to get ready to go live.
>
>
> Also, by sharing the same data and server set-up, we could all
> contribute training exercises.
>
>
> So, if you think this would be useful or you think it would be a waste
> of time...please advise.  Friendly amendments are also encouraged.  We
> want to do something that helps people so if this wouldn't help
> anyone, we RSCELs will focus our attention somewhere else!
>

Rather than having this data sitting just on a training server RSCEL, I
think it would be much more useful to have the sample data sets
available as part of the Evergreen source. This would enable every
Evergreen install to (optionally) have a reference set of data to work
with locally. We could build documentation / training based on those
sample sets of data, but also build tests on those sample sets of data
to ensure that the SQL schema hasn't been broken & the data can actually
load, a given server is working as expected, and that a given report
returns the expected results, and that a given API call generates the
expected effects.

This could also be a useful basis on which to build tests of the
migration scripts.

I do think that having an up-to-date training server always at the ready
would be a valuable thing and support that goal; I just think that it's
potentially more important to have a canonical set of sample data
available as part of the Evergreen source.


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