[OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] We have a problem "Profile group"

[Cynthia Williamson]

agreed - that it makes sense to have a default setting with fewer rather
than more permissions ... I wasn't necessarily arguing that out of the box a
circulator should have more permissions  - just that many libraries will
have many different workflows & needs at the circ desk.  Should more options
be added to the out of the box settings?  Not sure, I bet there are really
systems where a volunteer empties the drop box and the library might want
that person to only be able to check in books.  Don't think we could ever
please everyone in this regard.  The flexibility of the system is both its
joy and its frustration :)
Cynthia

On Sat, Oct 23, 2010 at 7:48 AM, Thomas Berezansky <tsbere at mvlc.org> wrote:

> I, personally, am a supporter of "give each default group that is not
> labeled as being an 'administrator' the minimal set of permissions it would
> logically need, and let each group installing/configuring the system add
> permissions to groups to suit their local needs" type things.
>
> In other words, by default, I think a circulator should be able to
> circulate materials, and nothing more. That does not restrict any given
> installation from having more permissions on that group, however, to enable
> things like patron registration, but then it is an action taken to increase
> rights of the group rather than needing to take action to decrease rights
> later.
>
> Things labeled as 'administrator' groups, however, I think should be given
> all rights they could possibly need for the scope of the account.
>
> Thus, I do not support making it so that by default the circulator can
> register patrons, but I support making it so that by default the local
> administrator can register patrons and staff accounts (including promoting
> patron accounts to staff accounts).
>
> I also support documenting how to give circulators permission to register
> patrons, however, for those libraries and/or consortia that want them to be
> able to do so.
>
> Thomas Berezansky
> Merrimack Valley Library Consortium
>
>
>
> Quoting Cynthia Williamson <crwbookgirl at gmail.com>:
>
>  Agree that there has to be a circulator with permission to register
>> patrons,
>> in general the ability to do more than just check books in and out.  I've
>> worked at a small public library where the person at the desk did it all,
>> incl. reference and readers' advisory - that person needed to be able to
>> register new patrons.  At Mohawk, we upload most of our student records
>> into
>> EG from the college registration software but some of our programs do not
>> have regular start up schedules and students may be on our doorstep a day
>> or
>> 2 before a scheduled upload - in that case our circulators need to be able
>> to register a student in EG.   In our case, it is the waiving of fines &
>> overriding of holds situations that we want to be able to move up the food
>> chain to a circ supervisor.  Two circulator permission profiles work for
>> us
>> but in other libraries it might be 3 or 4 or more settings that would be
>> needed....  In other words, many different libraries=many different
>> workflows.
>> Regards, Cynthia
>>
>> On Fri, Oct 22, 2010 at 11:48 PM, Jason Etheridge <jason at esilibrary.com
>> >wrote:
>>
>>  > In particular this differentiation is common at libraries that have
>>> > volunteer or work-study circ staff, or where patron membership requires
>>> > formal criteria be met (like local residence or group affiliation), or
>>> where
>>> > account initialization has non-negligible costs (e.g., expensive ID
>>> cards).
>>>
>>> Could make one or more sub-groups of Circulators, one with the
>>> permission needed for registering patrons.
>>>
>>> We should probably give the stock Local Admin group the ability to
>>> register any type of user.
>>>
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>>
>>
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>>
>


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