[OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Language problems in Evergreen
Armen
armen at flib.sci.am
Thu Feb 24 08:15:14 EST 2011
Hi Dan
just reporting that with Evergreen 1.6.0.6 no any problems with Armenian and
Cyrillic support,a nd currently we are using this version.
Regarding EG2.0.1. Cataloging module is supporting Armenian and Cyrillic
records in a normal way. Search and retrieval also works fine.
Our problem is with patron registration, and as I have mentioned Armenian
and Cyrillic records are not saved, and so search is not resulting to any
records.
As we understood from your e-mail, still some problems with Open SRF 2.0
regarding languages, so we should continue to use 1.6.0.6.
Is this correct?
thanks,
Armen
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Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2011 16:59:30 +0000
From: Nick Dimant <nick.dimant at ptfs-europe.com>
Subject: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Evergreen comes to the UK
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Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2011 12:06:25 -0500
From: Dan Scott <dan at coffeecode.net>
Subject: Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Language problems in Evergreen
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On Mon, Feb 21, 2011 at 11:11:02AM +0400, Armen wrote:
> Dear Evergreen staff
>
> I am from the Fundamental Scientific Library of Armenia. We have
> recently upgraded our Evergreen 1.6.0.6 version to 2.0.1 version and
> currently we are having some problems concerning our databases in Armenian
language.
> Particularly, per se
>
> I want to remark that the same problems occurred when we created a
> new database with command "createdb -T template0 -E UNICODE evergreen".
I don't think this command is at the root of your problems, for what it's
worth.
>
> * we can't register our users in Armenian (on the contrary to
> English)
I have reproduced this problem with Evergreen 2.0.1 and Evergreen trunk
running on both OpenSRF 1.6.2 and OpenSRF trunk.
On OpenSRF 1.6.2, the problem (as suggested by Galen Charlton) happens when
the FreezeThaw Perl module tries to "thaw" an OpenSRF message containing
Unicode characters outside of the basic multilingual plane.
Characters like '????' work fine, but your Armenian examples fail.
I was certain that this used to work (it works for you in Evergreen 1.6.0.6,
correct?) and tried rolling back the version of FreezeThaw to
0.43 from 2002, which is what we had been using on Debian Lenny.
However, that did not resolve the problem - so how that used to work remains
a mystery.
On OpenSRF trunk (to become 2.0), FreezeThaw is no longer used and I found
and fixed a bug where the Unicode data was not decoded and encoded
correctly. So... if we release OpenSRF 2.0, that offers one way of resolving
your problem.
> * and also we can't search our databases in Armenian. When we are
> doing search in Armenian and while typing one letter with a (*)
> asterix (the results of the search are being retrieved in Armenian),
> however when we are doing search only with Armenian letters we are not
> able to retrieve the search results.
>
> * Also when we want to search the user, we can do it only with bar
> code, however we can't do the search only by name and last name of the
> user (especially in Armenian).
These probably have the same underlying issue as when registering the users.
> * We also have some language issues concerning the interface of
the
> circulation database, some part of it is in English and some party of
> it is in Armenian (that is the menu tab of the users registration is
> in Armenian, however when it comes to the registration details of the
> users it is in English, to the contrary of the previous version, here
> every menu was in Armenian).
In 2.0, there are unfortunately some strings that have been hardcoded in
English. Bill Erickson has a working proof-of-concept for providing
translation support for Template::Tookit templates (which is what the patron
registration interface and many other interfaces have been built on in 2.0)
but we have not yet integrated that support into Evergreen.
Hopefully we can get some help in converting the existing interfaces over to
provide translation support once the option is available; our French users
would also appreciate this option!
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Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2011 12:10:51 -0500
From: "Duimovich, George" <George.Duimovich at NRCan-RNCan.gc.ca>
Subject: Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Evergreen comes to the UK
To: <nick.dimant at ptfs-europe.com>, "Evergreen Discussion Group"
<open-ils-general at list.georgialibraries.org>
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Congrats Nick. This is great news. Welcome aboard UK!
Are you sending anybody from your team to EG 2011?
George
George Duimovich
NRCan Library / Biblioth?que de RNCan
Ottawa, Canada
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[mailto:open-ils-general-bounces at list.georgialibraries.org] On Behalf Of
Nick Dimant
Sent: February 22, 2011 11:59
To: open-ils-general at list.georgialibraries.org
Subject: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Evergreen comes to the UK
I would like to introduce ourselves to the list. I am pleased to be able to
say that we will be helping to implement Evergreen for a consortium of
public libraries in Scotland. This is the first site in the UK to choose
Evergreen so is quite a milestone for us. The consortium comprises 16
libraries at Stirling Council and 8 at East Dunbartonshire. Both systems
are migrating from Horizon. We hope the consortium will grow as time goes
by.
More info at http://www.ptfs-europe.com/?p=988
Apart from providing the full range of implementation services we will be
carrying out two software developments for them. One will be to do an
integration with the Scottish National Entitlement Card. This is a single
smartcard used throughout Scotland to access a whole range of services
including bus travel, leisure centres and libraries. This card holds a
variety of personal information. With regard to Evergreen this will involve
developing the capability to read the patron's barcode off the card and if
they do not already have a record in Evergreen it will extract their user
details from the smartcard and create a user record on the Evergreen system.
We will also be developing a stock rotation facility which might be of more
general interest to the Evergreen community. This is where multiple
collections of books move from library to library on a scheduled basis,
staying for a set period of time at each library before being automatically
moved on according to predefined rotas. This is all aimed at making the
stock work harder and refresh the collections at all of the libraries on the
rota.
We have already had some great support from Equinox and are looking forward
to working on this exciting project.
Nick
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Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2011 09:35:56 -0800
From: Lori Bowen Ayre <lori.ayre at galecia.com>
Subject: Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] 2011 Evergreen Conference - Program
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Program looks great!
On Tue, Feb 22, 2011 at 7:49 AM, Amy Terlaga <terlaga at biblio.org> wrote:
> Hi all?
>
>
>
> We have just posted the preliminary schedule for the 2011 Evergreen
> Conference this upcoming April (April 27-30 / Decatur, Georgia).
>
>
>
> To download your copy, go to:
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> http://pines.georgialibraries.org/evergreen2011/schedule
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> As the page says, if you have any questions about this schedule, you can
> email the conference committee at eg2011info at esilibrary.com.
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> Happy reading!
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> Amy
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