[OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] [OPEN-ILS-DEV] Web Client (Sprint 1) demo - initial testing results
Kathy Lussier
klussier at masslnc.org
Thu Oct 2 16:23:00 EDT 2014
Mike,
> +1 to removing those options.
>
>
> I tend to agree, though I think it might be worth while for show-all
> to be possible for some UIs with just a few columns. Thoughts?
>
Maybe in UI's that have 10 or fewer column picker options?
Kathy
Kathy Lussier
Project Coordinator
Massachusetts Library Network Cooperative
(508) 343-0128
klussier at masslnc.org
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#evergreen IRC: kmlussier
On 10/2/2014 2:05 PM, Mike Rylander wrote:
> On Thu, Oct 2, 2014 at 1:58 PM, Kathy Lussier <klussier at masslnc.org
> <mailto:klussier at masslnc.org>> wrote:
>
> Hi all,
>
> Sorry to be replying to an older thread, but I came across it
> while looking at column pickers in the web client.
>
>> ITEMS OUT SCREEN - COLUMN PICKER:
>> - I didn't go through every option, but there were obvious
>> differences between the current staff client and the web
>> client and definitely some columns missing that are in the
>> current staff client.
>>
>>
>> There are a few things missing (like checkout/checkin workstation
>> and circ or renewal worktation), and the list of values in the
>> web based client is not ordered alphabetically. We can fix the
>> latter and the former is due to one of the known challenges going
>> to a web interface. A longer and more explanatory email to come
>> on that.
>
> Did we ever get the longer and more explanatory e-mail? I'm
> guessing it has something to do with cutting back our column
> picker options?
>
>
> I didn't go into a ton of detail, but I did respond, I'm pretty sure.
> However, I /did/ add the missing columns and add full-list sorting.
> Those commits are in a working branch that is waiting to be merged
> into master.
>
>> - Show All Columns and Hide All Columns don't appear to do
>> anything
>>
>>
>> They surely don't. And honestly, I would not recommend anyone
>> ever use "show all columns" - do we really need that option when
>> we have 60+ column options? And, now that I think about it...
>> Has anyone ever user hide all columns except after you
>> accidentally chose show all columns? Any opinions on keeping
>> those functions?
> +1 to removing those options.
>
>
> I tend to agree, though I think it might be worth while for show-all
> to be possible for some UIs with just a few columns. Thoughts?
>
> --
> Mike Rylander
> | Director of Research and Development
> | Equinox Software, Inc. / Your Library's Guide to Open Source
> | phone: 1-877-OPEN-ILS (673-6457)
> | email: miker at esilibrary.com <mailto:miker at esilibrary.com>
> | web: http://www.esilibrary.com <http://www.esilibrary.com/>
>
> Kathy
>
> Kathy Lussier
> Project Coordinator
> Massachusetts Library Network Cooperative
> (508) 343-0128 <tel:%28508%29%20343-0128>
> klussier at masslnc.org <mailto:klussier at masslnc.org>
> Twitter:http://www.twitter.com/kmlussier
> #evergreen IRC: kmlussier
>
> On 8/27/2014 9:13 AM, Grace Dunbar wrote:
>> Answers inline.
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Aug 25, 2014 at 6:32 PM, McCanna, Terran
>> <tmccanna at georgialibraries.org> wrote:
>>
>> MAIN SCREEN OF INTERFACE:
>> - Register Patron(s) link missing
>> - Pull List for Hold Requests link missing
>> - Catalog Search field missing
>> - Advanced Search link missing
>> - Item Status link missing
>>
>>
>> To be clear, I assume you mean that all of the above should be
>> added as "quick links" from the splash page?
>> These actions
>> - Register Patrons
>> - Pull List for Hold Requests
>> - Catalog Search
>> - Advanced Search
>> - Item Status
>> are all available from the menus at the top.
>>
>> Since we're moving to a browser client and have the opportunity
>> to re-think the splash page I think this might be a good time to
>> get community input as to what actions should be included and how
>> those should be organized.
>> Should there even be a splash page with a browser client and, if
>> so, what should be included as "quick links" by default?
>>
>> - Is the large Equinox banner across the bottom of the screen
>> present because it's being hosted on an Equinox server, or is
>> this something you have added to the default interface?
>>
>> Equinox would never brand the Evergreen open source product with
>> its name.
>> Never.
>> This is simply a style banner to indicate that we are hosting
>> this community test server. I'm sorry if that wasn't clear.
>>
>> MENUS:
>> - Search Catalog link missing from Search dropdown menu
>>
>>
>> We can add that. (Right now it appears under Cataloging, for
>> those who are just following the email discussion) In the
>> current client a link to search the catalog appears under both
>> Cataloging and Search menus. Should we keep them both or
>> eliminate one?
>>
>> PATRON FUNCTIONS:
>> - When creating a new message on an account there is an empty
>> dropdown box on the right side of the pop-up window - what is
>> that for? I don't seem to be able to do anything with it.
>>
>>
>> What Bill said. It exists in the current client for custom
>> penalties. We should probably put a label on it at the very least.
>>
>> - the Message pop-up window is missing the field to record
>> staff initials that is in the current staff client
>>
>>
>> Good catch. We'll add that.
>>
>> ITEMS OUT SCREEN - COLUMN PICKER:
>> - I didn't go through every option, but there were obvious
>> differences between the current staff client and the web
>> client and definitely some columns missing that are in the
>> current staff client.
>>
>>
>> There are a few things missing (like checkout/checkin workstation
>> and circ or renewal worktation), and the list of values in the
>> web based client is not ordered alphabetically. We can fix the
>> latter and the former is due to one of the known challenges going
>> to a web interface. A longer and more explanatory email to come
>> on that.
>>
>> - Show All Columns and Hide All Columns don't appear to do
>> anything
>>
>>
>> They surely don't. And honestly, I would not recommend anyone
>> ever use "show all columns" - do we really need that option when
>> we have 60+ column options? And, now that I think about it... Has
>> anyone ever user hide all columns except after you accidentally
>> chose show all columns? Any opinions on keeping those functions?
>>
>> - There is an optional column for "Due Date/Time" - what is
>> that for? (It does not display the date and time from the
>> normal "Due Date" column.)
>>
>> The labels come from a different place, since the code is
>> different. The different place they come from calls that column
>> "Due Date/Time" -- it's the same place as the report output gets
>> its column labels. We can choose to allow both columns, or just
>> one, and we can change the labels. Opinions on the this?
>>
>> - 'Check Out Date/Time' column is empty when turned on
>>
>>
>> Bug. Will be fixed.
>>
>> - 'Check Out Date/Time' should be 'Checkout Date/Time' to be
>> consistent with other terminology
>>
>>
>> Can do.
>>
>> - 'Check In Date/Time' should be 'Checkin Date/Time' to be
>> consistent with other terminology
>>
>>
>> Does this even belong on this column picker? I'm probably
>> missing an obvious use case but when would you have an item in
>> the "items out" list on this interface that has a checkin time?
>>
>> - There is also a 'Checkin Scan Date/Time' - is that
>> different from 'Checkin Date/time' ?
>>
>>
>> Checkin scan date/time is the time the item was actually scanned.
>> The other will give you the checkin date/time after any backdating.
>>
>>
>> RENEW ITEM WITH SELECTED DUE DATE:
>> - date is off (example: select November 5, 2014 as the new
>> date and it records it as November 4, 2014)
>>
>>
>> You're correct. That's a bug. Fixing...
>>
>> - does it matter what format the date is entered in? is there
>> going to be a calendar picker next to date fields like this?
>>
>>
>> See Bill's answer. :)
>>
>>
>>
>> SCAN ITEM AS MISSING PIECES:
>> - it displays a field called Patron Barcode rather than Item
>> Barcode
>>
>>
>> Oops! It surely does. We will fix the mislabeling.
>>
>>
>> Thanks for the testing and feedback!
>> Grace
>>
>>
>>
>> Terran McCanna
>> PINES Program Manager
>> Georgia Public Library Service
>> 1800 Century Place, Suite 150
>> Atlanta, GA 30345
>> 404-235-7138 <tel:404-235-7138>
>> tmccanna at georgialibraries.org
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Grace Dunbar, Vice President
>> Equinox Software, Inc. - The Open Source Experts
>> gdunbar at esilibrary.com
>> 1-877-OPEN-ILS www.esilibrary.com <http://www.esilibrary.com>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Grace Dunbar, Vice President
>> Equinox Software, Inc. - The Open Source Experts
>> gdunbar at esilibrary.com <mailto:gdunbar at esilibrary.com>
>> 1-877-OPEN-ILS www.esilibrary.com <http://www.esilibrary.com>
>>
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