[OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Deleting Patron Accounts - AND books?

[Walz, Jennifer]

Mike,

Yup.  That is precisely it.   I don’t want to have to remember to filter for “deleted”.   That seems really a weird expectation, when it should have been deleted.  (meaning it is not there)    ☺

  And it clutters up the server.  I like clean systems and only the stuff we have is there and nothing else.

And we get weird and random empty records that we can’t figure out how they got there.   Did someone make a mistake?   Did the system get confused?   Did we do something wrong?     Then fixing that is just a pain.   Would be nice to blast everything and just start over.  With the phantom records hanging around the system, you can’t really do that.

Maybe we could have a report run that “clears” the system only when you run it.   It could be an admin only function and run when it is deemed appropriate.   Our previous system had reports like that.  It was lovely.

  Thanks!

Jennifer
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Jennifer Walz, MLS - Head of ILS Random Weirdness
Kinlaw Library -  Asbury University
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From: Open-ils-general [mailto:open-ils-general-bounces at list.georgialibraries.org] On Behalf Of Mike Rylander
Sent: Wednesday, August 05, 2015 10:43 AM
To: Evergreen Discussion Group
Subject: Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Deleting Patron Accounts - AND books?

Jennifer,

Where, other than reports that lack a filter on "Is deleted", are these items showing up?

Thanks,


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On Wed, Aug 5, 2015 at 10:35 AM, Walz, Jennifer <jlwalz at asbury.edu<mailto:jlwalz at asbury.edu>> wrote:
All –

  I completely understand!   This is a valuable option for those folks who need this.  But there should ALSO be an option for completely and utterly obliterating the record – if you need to.    We just REMOVED about 600 books from our collection (remember that we are an academic library) and we never want to see them again.   We expect that they are weeded and gone.   But no.   They are still hanging around the system to clutter things up.   And confuse things too.   That is why we are experiencing so much problem with our items we are moving around into a new Children’s collection.   We weeded, we merged, and now we are changing call numbers.   But the “deleted” stuff keeps showing up when we THOUGHT we deleted it and never want to see it again.

  I’m NOT saying to remove the option to “hide” items in case you want to use them again or in the case where there are items attached or fines or such.   BUT, it would be really great to also have the option to really and finally REMOVE items from the system.  There are times when that is needed as well.

  Thanks!

Jennifer
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Jennifer Walz, MLS - Head of ILS Ministrations
Kinlaw Library -  Asbury University
One Macklem Drive, Wilmore, KY 40390
859-858-3511 ext. 2269<tel:859-858-3511%20ext.%202269>
jlwalz at asbury.edu<mailto:jlwalz at asbury.edu>

From: Open-ils-general [mailto:open-ils-general-bounces at list.georgialibraries.org<mailto:open-ils-general-bounces at list.georgialibraries.org>] On Behalf Of Rogan Hamby
Sent: Wednesday, August 05, 2015 10:10 AM
To: Evergreen Discussion Group
Subject: Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Deleting Patron Accounts - AND books?

Oh yeah, they reappear like fleas.  It's one reason I don't like obliterating, things that folks are sure they never want to see again one day suddenly are desirable the next.



On Wed, Aug 5, 2015 at 10:00 AM, Jason Stephenson <jstephenson at mvlc.org<mailto:jstephenson at mvlc.org>> wrote:
Funny thing about deleted copies is they come back!

Just last week I was asked to undelete about 1 dozen copies that showed up in the returns.

If you really delete them from the database, you can't do that.

Just some food for thought.

Jason
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