[OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Best-Hold Selection Sort Order

Wed Jul 1 20:24:57 EDT 2015

Hi Johnnie,

On Wed, Jul 1, 2015 at 4:22 PM, Pippin, Johnnie <johnnie.pippin at ncdcr.gov>
wrote:

> Ben and all,
>
> Thank you for your valuable information.
>
> We have an issue with certain systems having holds placed but looking
> outward to fulfill the hold within the consortium instead of first
> searching the available hold within its owning system.
>
> Our configuration for searching placed holds should be as follows:
>
> Hold placed at branch
> Search branch, not available
> Search System, not available
> Search Consortium
>
>
That's the way the default hold setup works. It's very unlikely that
proximity adjustment or best-hold sort order will help you here.  However...

> It seems that this works some of the time but not always. Proximity is key
> for what we want accomplished.
>
>
... can you expand on what you mean by this?  For instance, might the times
when it is not working as you expect coincide with a hold being older than
the "Holds: Soft stalling interval" time period? Or, might the
now-available copies have come in to the pickup branch or system after the
hold targeter ran or the specifically-targeted foreign copy was captured?

Thanks,

--Mike

Thanks!
>
> -  Johnnie
>
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> Date: Wed, 1 Jul 2015 10:17:59 -0700
> From: Beth Longwell <blongwel at eou.edu>
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> Johnnie,
>
> We use it to prioritize hold fulfillment based on the way our courier is
> set up, hoping to minimize transit time for the patron.
>
> Beth Longwell
> Sage Library System
>
> On Wed, Jul 1, 2015 at 10:07 AM, Michele Morgan <mmorgan at noblenet.org>
> wrote:
>
> > Hi Johnnie,
> >
> > NOBLE implemented "Traditional with Holds Always Go Home" Best-Hold
> > Selection Sort Order systemwide so that items will always travel home
> > if there are any holds for pickup at the owning library.
> >
> > We actually tweaked it a bit, removing approx and aprox. Since we do
> > not adjust proximity, there's no need to include them.
> >
> > Hope this helps.
> >
> > Michele
> >
> > --
> > Michele M. Morgan, Technical Assistant North of Boston Library
> > Exchange, Danvers Massachusetts mmorgan at noblenet.org
> >
> >
> > On Wed, Jul 1, 2015 at 12:30 PM, Ben Shum <bshum at biblio.org> wrote:
> >
> >> Hi Johnnie,
> >>
> >> Bibliomation implemented Best-Hold Selection Sort Order changes for
> >> at least one member library that required a specific approach to
> >> holds that differed from the rest of our consortium.  I described
> >> that use case in more detail in this post to the dev list a few years
> >> ago (
> >> http://markmail.org/message/pdksulwazgwzlro4) and that led to the
> >> feature's development too.  Since implementation, we have had no
> >> complaints about hold prioritization for the use case, so I consider
> >> that a "Pro" of "it works for us" with no speakable "Cons" for now.
> >>
> >> Can you give us a little more information about what potential use
> >> case are you hoping to achieve with the feature?  Are you trying to
> >> raise or prioritize holds for a given subset of libraries?  Is it
> >> based on geography, distance, political alliances?  There are lots of
> >> options and not all may result in optimal or expected outcomes...
> >>
> >> -- Ben
> >>
> >> On Wed, Jul 1, 2015 at 10:48 AM, Pippin, Johnnie <
> >> johnnie.pippin at ncdcr.gov> wrote:
> >>
> >>>  Good morning,
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> NC Cardinal is reviewing the Best-Hold Selection Sort Order for
> >>> holds placed in our consortium and wanted to gather some information
> >>> from the community before we move forward.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Has anyone implemented this process? If currently using, what are
> >>> the pros and cons of the Best-Hold Selecting Sort Order?
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Are there any major problems to be made aware of when using
> >>> Best-Hold Selecting Sort Order?
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Thanks!
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> -  Johnnie
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> "*The true measure of a man is how he treats someone who can do him
> >>> absolutely no good*." - Samuel Johnson
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> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >> Benjamin Shum
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