[OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Duplicate entry in authors.tt2 (is this bug 958954?)

[Hardy, Elaine]

I think it is LC practice to use the terms rather than the codes.



Elaine



J. Elaine Hardy
PINES & Collaborative Projects Manager
Georgia Public Library Service
1800 Century Place, Ste 150
Atlanta, Ga. 30345-4304



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From: Open-ils-general 
[mailto:open-ils-general-bounces at list.georgialibraries.org] On Behalf Of 
Chris Owens
Sent: Monday, June 01, 2015 9:05 AM
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Subject: Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Duplicate entry in authors.tt2 (is this bug 
958954?)



Regarding Dan's list, which is a good breakdown of the various issues, Part 
(d) really should be a case of one or the other. There should not be both a 
$e relator term and $4 relator code in the same field.

I am not an RDA expert (or a particularly big fan), but if we are looking to 
the future I think the $e relator term should take precedence over the $4 
relator code. All the RDA records we are seeing are using the $e rather than 
the $4 and when our consortium just went through the RDA process on all of 
our records with Backstage, all the $4 codes were converted to $e relator 
terms.

Thanks,
Chris



Chris Owens

Director

Blanchester Public Library

110 N. Broadway

Blanchester, OH 45107

937-783-3585

937-783-2910 (fax)

cowens at blanlibrary.org





On 5/29/2015 10:57 AM, Dan Scott wrote:

It sounds like there are a few issues here, let me see if I can separate 
them out:

a) bug: relator term $e is not being recognized as the relator, but is 
included in the text display along with parenthetical notation for the 
default relationship (e.g. 700 = (added author))

b) bug: multiple $4 relator codes are not displayed properly, where 
"properly" might mean something like "$700 $a White, Jack $4 cre $4 dir" 
should be displayed as "White, Jack (creator, director)"

c) bug: the default relationship of "added author" for 7xx fields when no 
relator code or term is specified needs to reflect the underlying item type 
(e.g. for a musical recording, should display something like "Added artist")

d) discussion issue: when both $e relator terms and $4 relator codes are 
included in the same field, it's not clear what to display

e) (unknown if this is an issue, but "probably") $e relator terms and $4 
relator codes may or may not be indexed as expected



For my part on (d), I'm still firmly of the belief that $4 relator code 
should take precedence; it's value can easily be translated in the display 
(and is, for French) and can be used for linked data (like pointing to 
http://id.loc.gov/vocabulary/relators/dtc), whereas the $e relator terms are 
effectively uncontrolled text fields that make both translation and linked 
data much, much more difficult.



Dan



On Fri, May 29, 2015 at 8:56 AM, Hardy, Elaine <ehardy at georgialibraries.org> 
wrote:

+1





Elaine



J. Elaine Hardy
PINES & Collaborative Projects Manager
Georgia Public Library Service
1800 Century Place, Ste 150
Atlanta, Ga. 30345-4304



404.235.7128
404.235.7201, fax
ehardy at georgialibraries.org
www.georgialibraries.org
www.georgialibraries.org/pines



From: Open-ils-general 
[mailto:open-ils-general-bounces at list.georgialibraries.org] On Behalf Of 
Sarah Childs
Sent: Thursday, May 28, 2015 4:51 PM
To: Evergreen Discussion Group
Subject: Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Duplicate entry in authors.tt2 (is this bug 
958954?)



A summary of what I propose:

If no subfield e or 4, no term should be displayed.

Display subfield e if present

Display terms based on codes in subfield 4 if present

If both subfield e or 4 are present, display one or the other. (Either is 
fine with me)











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