[OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] alert for once juvenile becomes adult

[Chris Sharp]

This doesn't solve the ID issue, but we run the http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=Evergreen.git;a=blob;f=Open-ILS/src/support-scripts/juv_to_adult.srfsh script nightly.  As you'll see, it's a one-liner that flips the flag based on the age threshold of your choice.

----- Original Message -----
> From: "Terran McCanna" <tmccanna at georgialibraries.org>
> To: "Evergreen Discussion Group" <open-ils-general at list.georgialibraries.org>
> Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2015 11:07:32 PM
> Subject: Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] alert for once juvenile becomes adult
> 
> Ah, I see - that's a great way to make sure their own ID is collected for the
> account - I've certainly run across accounts like this where the parent's ID
> is still on the young adult's card years later because it was overlooked
> during card renewals.
> 
> 
> 
> Terran McCanna
> PINES Program Manager
> Georgia Public Library Service
> 1800 Century Place, Suite 150
> Atlanta, GA 30345
> 404-235-7138
> tmccanna at georgialibraries.org
> 
> 
> <div>-------- Original message --------</div><div>From: Holly Brennan
> <haderhold at ci.homer.ak.us> </div><div>Date:06/10/2015  10:05 PM  (GMT-05:00)
> </div><div>To: Evergreen Discussion Group
> <open-ils-general at list.georgialibraries.org> </div><div>Subject: Re:
> [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] alert for once juvenile becomes adult </div><div>
> </div>Changing the ID would be manually, when the juve-now-adult is at the
> library. When we scan their card the alert would prompt us to ask for THEIR
> ID and then we’d change the information, as long as the fines are below our
> threshold (we’re often very generous with kids becoming adults, especially
> if the fines were accrued when they were very young).
> 
> Since we have to manually view and enter the new ID info (Evergreen isn’t
> THAT good), it doesn’t make much sense to have the script remove parent ID
> automatically. Actually, that sounds pretty scary! ☺
> 
> -Holly
> 
> From: Open-ils-general
> [mailto:open-ils-general-bounces at list.georgialibraries.org] On Behalf Of
> McCanna, Terran
> Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2015 5:11 PM
> To: Evergreen Discussion Group
> Subject: Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] alert for once juvenile becomes adult
> 
> I'm interested in this idea too - have fines entered your discussions? We
> have encountered patrons who had max fines as a juvenile, but their parents
> never paid the fines. We wouldn't want to automatically remove the parent's
> identifying info from the account in these cases since the parent is still
> responsible for those bad debts. Of course, we could probably just add an
> extra bit into the script to check for fines before updating all of that
> info - or maybe partially update, but add different info to the alert.
> 
> 
> Terran McCanna
> PINES Program Manager
> Georgia Public Library Service
> 1800 Century Place, Suite 150
> Atlanta, GA 30345
> 404-235-7138
> tmccanna at georgialibraries.org<mailto:tmccanna at georgialibraries.org>
> -------- Original message --------
> From: Justin Hopkins 📖
> Date:06/10/2015 5:37 PM (GMT-05:00)
> To: Evergreen Discussion Group
> Subject: Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] alert for once juvenile becomes adult
> 
> 
> Blake is going to put something together, for our own use if nothing else.
> Hopefully it will be useful for others :)
> 
> Justin
> On 6/10/15 4:24 PM, Holly Brennan wrote:
> Thanks, Justin! Your messages were filtered to my junk – sorry for the late
> reply!
> 
> I can look at the whole database, but only change things I’m familiar with
> (and this is not one).
> 
> -Holly
> 
> From: Open-ils-general
> [mailto:open-ils-general-bounces at list.georgialibraries.org] On Behalf Of
> Justin Hopkins ??
> Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2015 12:11 PM
> To: Evergreen Discussion Group
> Subject: Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] alert for once juvenile becomes adult
> 
> I should clarify that my previous suggestion was based on my recollection
> that you have access to the database and could set this up.
> 
> Justin
> On 6/10/15 3:09 PM, Justin Hopkins 📖 wrote:
> Holly,
> 
> I think the simplest solution would be to run a script on a nightly cron that
> updated the database as necessary. Flip the Juvenile flag, change their
> profile, possibly remove the grouping/ident2_value, and add an alert. I
> thought we might be running something like that ourselves, but either I'm
> not finding it, or it's just something we'd also talked about doing but
> never did.
> 
> Justin
> On 6/10/15 3:00 PM, Holly Brennan wrote:
> We’d like to be alerted when a patron who was marked as juvenile (the
> checkbox based on their birth date) is now over 18. The goal would be to
> catch those now-adults and change their library card type from Juvenile to
> Adult, so they are now responsible for their library card rather than their
> parent. We would also enter their ID information, and remove the parent’s ID
> (typically their driver’s license).
> 
> The staff notification could be just a alert message. We’d like to avoid
> having to look at an expired account and calculate whether that patron is
> now an adult, so please no solutions involving math. ☺
> 
> We’ve run a report for patrons who have Juvenile accounts but are 18+, and
> there are hundreds. I’m guessing we’re on our own fixing these ones, but
> maybe there is a miracle out there for adding the alert to these accounts
> too?
> 
> Thanks!
> 
> Holly Brennan
> Library Technology Specialist
> Homer Public Library, Alaska
> 
> hbrennan at cityofhomer-ak.gov<mailto:hbrennan at cityofhomer-ak.gov>
> 907-235-3180 (main)
> 907-435-3154 (direct)
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 

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Chris Sharp
PINES System Administrator
Georgia Public Library Service
1800 Century Place, Suite 150
Atlanta, Georgia 30345
(404) 235-7147
csharp at georgialibraries.org
http://pines.georgialibraries.org/