[OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] 016 & 029

Thu Oct 1 15:00:43 EDT 2015

I thought it was a local indexing project and was wondering why you would 
want either field indexed!

I still am not sure they would be practical fields to index since they are 
control numbers analogous to OCLC TCNs. As such, they might to be in an 001 
in the originating library catalog, which is already indexed.  There are 
days, however, when I would prefer to search for a TCN in advanced or basic 
(we use OCLC TCNs as our TCNs), so would like the 035 indexed.

Elaine

J. Elaine Hardy
PINES & Collaborative Projects Manager
Georgia Public Library Service
1800 Century Place, Ste 150
Atlanta, Ga. 30345-4304

404.235.7128
404.235.7201, fax
ehardy at georgialibraries.org
www.georgialibraries.org
www.georgialibraries.org/pines

From: Open-ils-general 
[mailto:open-ils-general-bounces at list.georgialibraries.org] On Behalf Of 
Donald Butterworth
Sent: Thursday, October 01, 2015 2:10 PM
To: Evergreen Discussion Group
Subject: Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] 016 & 029

The only reason I wanted them included in our parameters is so that when we 
complete this project, we can submit it to become part of the permanent 
Evergreen code, if the power that be so choose. These control numbers might 
be very important for libraries in the UK, Australia, and etc.

On Thu, Oct 1, 2015 at 2:05 PM, Hardy, Elaine <ehardy at georgialibraries.org> 
wrote:

We do strip them on import. I did not realize that also meant it would strip 
them when added to an existing MARC record. Too me that is 2 different 
procedures

We don’t use them – I don’t see the need for them either. I was testing for 
Don.

Elaine

J. Elaine Hardy
PINES & Collaborative Projects Manager
Georgia Public Library Service
1800 Century Place, Ste 150
Atlanta, Ga. 30345-4304

404.235.7128
404.235.7201, fax
ehardy at georgialibraries.org
www.georgialibraries.org
www.georgialibraries.org/pines

From: Open-ils-general 
[mailto:open-ils-general-bounces at list.georgialibraries.org] On Behalf Of Dea 
Nowell
Sent: Thursday, October 01, 2015 1:57 PM

To: Evergreen Discussion Group
Subject: Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] 016 & 029

Mary, we also strip the 029s as we don't see any reason to keep them.  I'm 
just noting that stripping them on import may be why Elaine (& possibly Don) 
are unable to add them to records.
- Dea Nowell

On 10/1/2015 10:37 AM, Mary Llewellyn wrote:

We’re stripping the 029s. Am I missing a reason why we should be keeping 
them?

Mary

Mary Llewellyn

Database Manager

Bibliomation, Inc.

24 Wooster Ave.

Waterbury, CT 06708

mllewell at biblio.org

From: Open-ils-general 
[mailto:open-ils-general-bounces at list.georgialibraries.org] On Behalf Of Dea 
Nowell
Sent: Thursday, October 01, 2015 12:58 PM
To: Evergreen Discussion Group
Subject: Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] 016 & 029

Elaine, is your system stripping the 029 on import of records into the 
system?  If so this is why it will not save the 029 in a record.  We just 
discovered this with our system (Sage Library System) recently with a 
different field.  Once we removed the field from those that were being 
stripped on import we were able to have the field saved in the bib.  Just a 
thought to explore & it may address Don's query as well, I'm not sure.
- Dea Nowell

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On 10/1/2015 9:41 AM, Hardy, Elaine wrote:

I was able to add an 016 to a bib record in the PINES database. I was not 
able to add an 029

An 029 is a field used by OCLC to “system control numbers for records from 
non-OCLC automated systems (e.g., Library and Archives Canada, the British 
Library, WorldCat Cataloging Partners vendors, etc.). OCLC uses these 
numbers to process and track records from other systems.” 
http://www.oclc.org/bib formats/en/0xx/029.html 
<http://www.oclc.org/bibformats/en/0xx/029.html> . Not sure why it doesn’t 
retain on save. An 019, which is another field specific to OCLC, does (see 
http://www.oclc.org/bibformats/en/0xx/019.html). 029 seems to be system 
supplied; but, the 019 is system supplied…

Elaine

J. Elaine Hardy PINES & Collaborative Projects Manager Georgia Public 
Library Service 1800 Century Place, Ste 150 Atlanta, Ga. 30345-4304

404.235.7128 404.235.7201, fax ehardy at georgialibraries.org 
www.georgialibraries.org www.georgialibraries.org/pines

From: Open-ils-general 
[mailto:open-ils-general-bounces at list.georgialibraries.org] On Behalf Of 
Donald Butterworth Sent: Thursday, October 01, 2015 11:48 AM To: Evergreen 
Discussion Group Subject: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] 016 & 029

Hi Everyone,

As part of a project to add more fields to the general keyword index, we 
discovered that we can't add the 016 and the 029 control number fields to a 
MARC record.

It looks like it saves, but it isn't there when you do a new search. It also 
never shows on the MARC View screen.

What do we need to do to add these fields?

Thanks!

Don

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