[OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] opposite of force/recall hold

[Elaine Hardy]

What about suspending the hold and then editing for an activate date? You
would need to estimate the date based on the number of holds -- would that
add too much to the workflow to make it a viable work around?



J. Elaine Hardy
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On Tue, Oct 11, 2016 at 4:18 PM, Morgan, Michele <mmorgan at noblenet.org>
wrote:

> Hi Holly,
>
> A quick test indicates that -1 yields a *higher* priority than 0, so
> Thomas's suggestion of setting to 1 should do the trick for the priority.
> As pointed out in irc, though, the staff holds would still block renewals.
>
> I assume this would not be the case if the library setting "Block Renewal
> of Items Needed for Holds" is set to false.
>
> -Michele
>
> --
> Michele M. Morgan, Technical Support Analyst
> North of Boston Library Exchange, Danvers Massachusetts
> mmorgan at noblenet.org
>
>
> On Tue, Oct 11, 2016 at 3:34 PM, Holly Brennan <haderhold at ci.homer.ak.us>
> wrote:
>
>> Thanks, Eva, Michele, and Thomas!
>>
>> Seeing that we have never messed with Hold Priority, all our permission
>> groups currently have Hold Priority = 0. So if I want our cataloging staff
>> to have their holds "coast" along, I should set their Hold Priority to 1?
>>
>> Thanks for the clarification!
>>
>> -Holly
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Open-ils-general [mailto:open-ils-general-bounc
>> es at list.georgialibraries.org] On Behalf Of Thomas Berezansky
>> Sent: Tuesday, October 11, 2016 6:25 AM
>> To: Evergreen Discussion Group
>> Subject: Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] opposite of force/recall hold
>>
>> MVLC uses that functionality for ILL cards, though as far as I know you
>> have it backwards.
>>
>> Due to how the sorting works a higher value is lower priority. That is,
>> -1 will come before 0 which will come before 1, all else being equal. This
>> is due to the fact that it is sorted as a number, as-is. If it is supposed
>> to go the other direction then some code changes (and probably an inverting
>> of all configured values in an upgrade script) would be needed.
>>
>> This confused me when I first configured it.
>>
>> Thomas Berezansky
>> Assistant Network Administrator
>> Merrimack Valley Library Consortium
>> 4 High ST, Suite 175
>> North Andover, MA 01845
>> Phone: 978-557-8161
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Open-ils-general [mailto:open-ils-general-bounc
>> es at list.georgialibraries.org] On Behalf Of Morgan, Michele
>> Sent: Tuesday, October 11, 2016 09:03
>> To: Evergreen Discussion Group <open-ils-general at list.georgia
>> libraries.org>
>> Subject: Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] opposite of force/recall hold
>>
>> Hi Holly,
>>
>>
>> In terms of existing functionality, you can assign a "Hold Priority" to a
>> permission group in Admin -> Server Admin -> Permission Groups. By default
>> it's zero, and you can set it to a positive or negative number. A negative
>> number would give a user in that permission group a lower priority for
>> holds.
>>
>>
>> I haven't tested this out, but it may work for your situation.
>>
>>
>> Hope this helps,
>>
>> Michele
>>
>>
>> --
>> Michele M. Morgan, Technical Support Analyst
>>
>> North of Boston Library Exchange, Danvers Massachusetts
>> mmorgan at noblenet.org <mailto:mmorgan at noblenet.org>
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Oct 9, 2016 at 7:02 AM, Cerninakova Eva <cernin at jabok.cz <mailto:
>> cernin at jabok.cz> > wrote:
>>
>>
>>         Hi Holly,
>>
>>         when we need to catch particular copy of material that is
>> circulating at a time and don't want to place a hold, we usually use the
>> "Alert message" in copy editor. When the copy is being checked in (or out)
>> the message pops out and the staff is alerted that an action should be
>> taken with the copy (I am not sure if there isn´t any settling that could
>> affect the popping out). The alert message pops out until it has been
>> deleted. It is possible to apply the alert message to more copies at once.
>>
>>         I think this might solve your problem temporarily (though I
>> understand that it might be complication to confirm the overriding of alert
>> message every time the DVD is being checked in/out until the DVD is no more
>> on hold).
>>
>>
>>         Eva
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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>>         2016-10-08 16:59 GMT+02:00 Benjamin Kalish <
>> bkalish at forbeslibrary.org <mailto:bkalish at forbeslibrary.org> >:
>>
>>
>>                 I agree that this would be useful.
>>
>>                 Benjamin Kalish
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>>                 On Fri, Oct 7, 2016 at 8:39 PM, Holly Brennan <
>> haderhold at ci.homer.ak.us <mailto:haderhold at ci.homer.ak.us> > wrote:
>>
>>
>>                         A staff member needs to put a lot of DVDs on hold
>> to assess the physical condition, but is in no rush. We don’t want to
>> prevent patrons from renewing items they have just because of our staff
>> hold.
>>
>>
>>
>>                         In other words, we’re looking for something
>> that’s the opposite of the force/recall hold types. A “timid” hold….a
>> pushover that’s okay with being sent to the back of the line until
>> absolutely no one else cares about the item. It would speak up only after
>> the item is checked in and moves to Available status.
>>
>>
>>
>>                         Anyone else feel this would be a useful addition?
>> Or maybe there’s a way to make this process work with the existing ILS
>> functions? Thanks!
>>
>>
>>
>>                         -Holly
>>
>>
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>>                         Holly Brennan
>>
>>                         Technology Specialist
>>
>>                         Homer Public Library
>>
>>                         Homer, Alaska
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