[OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] opposite of force/recall hold

Tue Oct 11 16:18:08 EDT 2016

Hi Holly,

A quick test indicates that -1 yields a *higher* priority than 0, so
Thomas's suggestion of setting to 1 should do the trick for the priority.
As pointed out in irc, though, the staff holds would still block renewals.

I assume this would not be the case if the library setting "Block Renewal
of Items Needed for Holds" is set to false.

-Michele

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Michele M. Morgan, Technical Support Analyst
North of Boston Library Exchange, Danvers Massachusetts
mmorgan at noblenet.org

On Tue, Oct 11, 2016 at 3:34 PM, Holly Brennan <haderhold at ci.homer.ak.us>
wrote:

> Thanks, Eva, Michele, and Thomas!
>
> Seeing that we have never messed with Hold Priority, all our permission
> groups currently have Hold Priority = 0. So if I want our cataloging staff
> to have their holds "coast" along, I should set their Hold Priority to 1?
>
> Thanks for the clarification!
>
> -Holly
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Open-ils-general [mailto:open-ils-general-
> bounces at list.georgialibraries.org] On Behalf Of Thomas Berezansky
> Sent: Tuesday, October 11, 2016 6:25 AM
> To: Evergreen Discussion Group
> Subject: Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] opposite of force/recall hold
>
> MVLC uses that functionality for ILL cards, though as far as I know you
> have it backwards.
>
> Due to how the sorting works a higher value is lower priority. That is, -1
> will come before 0 which will come before 1, all else being equal. This is
> due to the fact that it is sorted as a number, as-is. If it is supposed to
> go the other direction then some code changes (and probably an inverting of
> all configured values in an upgrade script) would be needed.
>
> This confused me when I first configured it.
>
> Thomas Berezansky
> Assistant Network Administrator
> Merrimack Valley Library Consortium
> 4 High ST, Suite 175
> North Andover, MA 01845
> Phone: 978-557-8161
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Open-ils-general [mailto:open-ils-general-
> bounces at list.georgialibraries.org] On Behalf Of Morgan, Michele
> Sent: Tuesday, October 11, 2016 09:03
> To: Evergreen Discussion Group <open-ils-general at list.georgialibraries.org
> >
> Subject: Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] opposite of force/recall hold
>
> Hi Holly,
>
>
> In terms of existing functionality, you can assign a "Hold Priority" to a
> permission group in Admin -> Server Admin -> Permission Groups. By default
> it's zero, and you can set it to a positive or negative number. A negative
> number would give a user in that permission group a lower priority for
> holds.
>
>
> I haven't tested this out, but it may work for your situation.
>
>
> Hope this helps,
>
> Michele
>
>
> --
> Michele M. Morgan, Technical Support Analyst
>
> North of Boston Library Exchange, Danvers Massachusetts
> mmorgan at noblenet.org <mailto:mmorgan at noblenet.org>
>
>
> On Sun, Oct 9, 2016 at 7:02 AM, Cerninakova Eva <cernin at jabok.cz <mailto:
> cernin at jabok.cz> > wrote:
>
>
>         Hi Holly,
>
>         when we need to catch particular copy of material that is
> circulating at a time and don't want to place a hold, we usually use the
> "Alert message" in copy editor. When the copy is being checked in (or out)
> the message pops out and the staff is alerted that an action should be
> taken with the copy (I am not sure if there isn´t any settling that could
> affect the popping out). The alert message pops out until it has been
> deleted. It is possible to apply the alert message to more copies at once.
>
>         I think this might solve your problem temporarily (though I
> understand that it might be complication to confirm the overriding of alert
> message every time the DVD is being checked in/out until the DVD is no more
> on hold).
>
>
>         Eva
>
>
>
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>         2016-10-08 16:59 GMT+02:00 Benjamin Kalish <
> bkalish at forbeslibrary.org <mailto:bkalish at forbeslibrary.org> >:
>
>
>                 I agree that this would be useful.
>
>                 Benjamin Kalish
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>                 On Fri, Oct 7, 2016 at 8:39 PM, Holly Brennan <
> haderhold at ci.homer.ak.us <mailto:haderhold at ci.homer.ak.us> > wrote:
>
>
>                         A staff member needs to put a lot of DVDs on hold
> to assess the physical condition, but is in no rush. We don’t want to
> prevent patrons from renewing items they have just because of our staff
> hold.
>
>
>
>                         In other words, we’re looking for something that’s
> the opposite of the force/recall hold types. A “timid” hold….a pushover
> that’s okay with being sent to the back of the line until absolutely no one
> else cares about the item. It would speak up only after the item is checked
> in and moves to Available status.
>
>
>
>                         Anyone else feel this would be a useful addition?
> Or maybe there’s a way to make this process work with the existing ILS
> functions? Thanks!
>
>
>
>                         -Holly
>
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>                         Holly Brennan
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>                         Technology Specialist
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>                         Homer Public Library
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