[OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Open-ils-general Digest, Vol 140, Issue 9

Tue Feb 6 15:56:05 EST 2018

These proposed changes seem unobjectionable to me. For my purposes, it
makes it neither worse, nor significantly better. I'm not highly concerned
about having a lot of room for my search results to be listed, because most
of the searches I perform retrieve fewer than five results. If a search has
more results than that, the time consuming part is not scrolling, it's
examining each record to evaluate and compare them. So I still think being
able to arrow through the records in display view would be a much more
useful, functional change than making more room for the list of records.

On Tue, Feb 6, 2018 at 2:59 PM, Jeanette Lundgren <jlundgren at cwmars.org>
wrote:

> Here is a link to a screenshot of the current Z39.50 search query and a
> mockup of what a horizontal display (modeled after the patron search) might
> look like.
>
> https://docs.google.com/document/d/17_2g_W6qZGufwdOuMLP0hRXvi7yTssMpuYw
> 2rianMJQ/edit?usp=sharing
>
> Thanks for your feedback!
> Jeanette
>
> On Tue, Feb 6, 2018 at 1:24 PM, Jeanette Lundgren <jlundgren at cwmars.org>
> wrote:
>
>> Hi Sarah,
>> Thank you for the feedback.
>>
>> I'm using a 20" horizontal monitor (about 10.5" tall x 18" wide) at 1280
>> x 1024 resolution.
>> On the Z39.50 Query screen, I can see the query form, search buttons and
>> 7 rows of the search result
>> On the patron search screen, I can see the search form, search buttons
>> and 21 rows of the search result and when minimized I can see 28 rows
>> before having to scroll.
>>
>> I know scrolling largely depends on monitor size and resolution.  The
>> library staff member who brought this up needs to use a bigger font for
>> vision and she finds on her resolution she has to scroll just to see/click
>> the search button.
>>
>> I'm curious to know if anyone else has had this issue reported and if you
>> think making the two interfaces more consistent would be beneficial.
>> Thanks!
>>
>> On Tue, Feb 6, 2018 at 12:00 PM, <open-ils-general-request at list
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>>> One of the organizers from the Southern California Linux Expo contacted
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>>> Message: 2
>>> Date: Mon, 5 Feb 2018 12:41:14 -0500
>>> From: Sarah Childs <sarahc at zionsvillelibrary.org>
>>> To: Evergreen Discussion Group
>>>         <open-ils-general at list.georgialibraries.org>
>>> Subject: Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Web Client - Z39.50 Interface
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>>>
>>> I can't really visualize what you are proposing, and to me the display is
>>> fine. (It all displays on the screen for me, no vertical or horizontal
>>> scrolling) I thought the display was much more of an issue before the
>>> webclient, when the MARC record displayed in the window below the search
>>> panels.
>>>
>>> The only scrolling issue I have for the Z39.50 page in the webclient is
>>> the
>>> record view, where the cover image is stacked on top of the MARC record,
>>> so
>>> you have to scroll past it to see the record.  If they were side by side,
>>> the webclient display would be an improvement over the old client, were
>>> you
>>> *do* have to scroll to see the whole MARC record, due to the windows as
>>> noted above.
>>>
>>> The other problem I have with the Z39.50 interface is that it when you
>>> have
>>> multiple search results, it takes three clicks to look at each record.
>>> It
>>> would be much more useful if when you had multiple results, there were
>>> next/back or arrow buttons so you could click through to view the
>>> different
>>> results, rather than having to close the record you're looking at, click
>>> the next record you want to look at, and then clicking view MARC.
>>>
>>> On Mon, Feb 5, 2018 at 11:56 AM, Jeanette Lundgren <jlundgren at cwmars.org
>>> >
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> > Hi everyone,
>>> >
>>> > We've received some feedback from a few of our libraries that use
>>> Z39.50
>>> > in Evergreen that the 3.0 Z39.50 Query form takes up too much vertical
>>> > space and requires a lot of scrolling.  We were thinking that it might
>>> be
>>> > worthwhile to model this screen after the patron search screen which
>>> uses a
>>> > more horizontal layout.
>>> >
>>> > Some advantages of the patron search screen
>>> > - Stack fields horizontally - less vertical scrolling
>>> > - list field names inside boxes - less horizontal space
>>> > - Ability to add a tab for services and credentials information
>>> > - Move search button to top row of query form
>>> > - Make a minimized query option available (allow top row to remain)
>>> >
>>> > In addition we may want to add vertical checkboxes for configured
>>> services
>>> > to top of query form to allow users to easily check/uncheck services
>>> and
>>> > run/rerun searches
>>> >
>>> > I wanted to ask the community for feedback as this would change the
>>> > look/feel of the current Z39.50 interface.
>>> >
>>> > Thanks for your thoughts!
>>> >
>>> > Jeanette
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > --
>>> >
>>> > 
>>> >
>>> > Jeanette Lundgren | Manager Library Applications | CW MARS
>>> >
>>> > jlundgren at cwmars.org | 508-755-3323 x 330 <(508)%20755-3323>
>>> >
>>> > http:// <http://www.cwmars.org/>www.cwmars.org
>>> >
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Sarah Childs
>>> Technical Services Department Head
>>> Hussey-Mayfield Memorial Public Library
>>> 250 North Fifth Street
>>> Zionsville, IN 46077
>>> 317-873-3149 x13330
>>> sarahc at zionsvillelibrary.org
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>> --
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>> Jeanette Lundgren | Manager Library Applications | CW MARS
>>
>> jlundgren at cwmars.org | 508-755-3323 x 330 <(508)%20755-3323>
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>> http:// <http://www.cwmars.org/>www.cwmars.org
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> --
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> 
>
> Jeanette Lundgren | Manager Library Applications | CW MARS
>
> jlundgren at cwmars.org | 508-755-3323 x 330 <(508)%20755-3323>
>
> http:// <http://www.cwmars.org/>www.cwmars.org
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Sarah Childs
Technical Services Department Head
Hussey-Mayfield Memorial Public Library
250 North Fifth Street
Zionsville, IN 46077
317-873-3149 x13330
sarahc at zionsvillelibrary.org
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