[Eg-oversight-board] Fwd: Evergreen participating in Outreachy again?
Kathy Lussier
klussier at masslnc.org
Tue Feb 16 11:26:10 EST 2016
Hi all,
I'm going to chime in as the coordinator from our previous participation
in the Outreachy program. I concur with everything Grace said in her email.
I love the idea of inviting students into our community to work on a
project, but I do think we need to work together ahead of time to
establish clear guidelines of the time that is expected from the mentor,
what type of guidance the mentor is expected to give a student, and how
the student should be interacting with the community. I don't think
this is something we can quickly throw together, but is something that
will take time to develop.
Going beyond the mentorship requirements, in terms of selecting projects
for interns to work on, I'll say one problem we've consistently come
across with coding projects is that there is a high bar for entry for
contributing code to the Evergreen project. We heard from interns who
had trouble getting an Evergreen installation up and running. When we
last participated in Outreachy, we didn't have any candidates who
successfully completed the requirement to fix a bitesize bug before
submitting an application, even though I know at least one candidate had
an Evergreen install going early in the application period. Maybe Grace
is correct when she says it will become easier once the web client is
finished, but, even so, we do need to work in the meantime on learning
how to mentor.
Kathy
On 02/16/2016 11:01 AM, Grace Dunbar wrote:
> Having participated as a mentor in the first round, I'd say that our
> participation suffered from the same issue we've always had in these
> situations (GSOC, etc.) - mainly, lack of time on behalf of the
> mentors. I would not qualify our mentorship of our Outreach
> participant as a success because I don't feel like we met the stated
> goals of the program which were to guide the participant through a
> small project wherein at the conclusion they could see their code
> accepted and implemented in the project before the end of the term.
> Until we address our own issues with mentoring, transparency, and the
> ability to successfully create small projects that are achievable for
> the participants I don't think we should be participating.
> That said... I think that there will be many, many more opportunities
> for participation in these programs once the web client is finished as
> the platform will be much friendlier for a wider range of participants.
> So, while I'm a big fan of the idea, I'm not a believer in our ability
> to successfully mentor participants. And I think it's unfair of us
> use these participants as our learning curve.
>
> Grace
>
> On Tue, Feb 16, 2016 at 10:48 AM, Ruth Frasur <rfrasur at gmail.com
> <mailto:rfrasur at gmail.com>> wrote:
>
> While I know that this happened, I wasn't part of any of the
> logistical stuff. On the one hand, I'm for anything that empowers
> women, encourages any participation in open source communities,
> and promotes Evergreen ILS beyond its community and users. On the
> other hand, I don't really know enough about what this would
> entail to make an informed recommendation.
>
> On Tue, Feb 16, 2016 at 8:11 AM, Chris Sharp
> <csharp at georgialibraries.org <mailto:csharp at georgialibraries.org>>
> wrote:
>
> For your consideration. "Outreachy" was formerly known as the
> "Outreach Project for Women", which Evergreen participated in
> a couple of years ago. See details below.
>
> ----- Forwarded Message -----
> > From: "Karen Sandler" <karen at sfconservancy.org
> <mailto:karen at sfconservancy.org>>
> > To: csharp at georgialibraries.org
> <mailto:csharp at georgialibraries.org>, "Kathy Lussier"
> <klussier at masslnc.org <mailto:klussier at masslnc.org>>
> > Sent: Tuesday, February 16, 2016 12:14:28 AM
> > Subject: Evergreen participating in Outreachy again?
> >
> > Hi Kathy and Chris,
> >
> > The Outreachy program is looking for organizations to
> participate in
> > round 12. Do you think Evergreen would want to participate
> again?
> > The round will open this week.
> >
> > Please let us know if Evergreen can participate again!
> >
> > karen
> >
> > On Mon, Jan 25, 2016 at 7:51 AM, Sarah A Sharp
> <sarah at thesharps.us <mailto:sarah at thesharps.us>>
> > wrote:
> >
> >
> > Dear coordinators and mentors,
> >
> > Thank you for being a part of our outreach program! The next
> round for
> > Outreachy is scheduled to open on February 16, with an
> application
> > deadline of March 22. Internships will run from May 23 to
> August 23.
> >
> > If your organization is interested in participating in the
> next round,
> > please update your landing page, and let us know by February
> 16 if you
> > will participate. Organization coordinators and mentors, please
> > coordinate on the following:
> >
> > * Review set up information at
> > https://wiki.gnome.org/Outreachy/Admin/GettingStarted
> > * Secure funding for your org to sponsor at least one intern
> ($6,500)
> > * Update your org's landing page
> > * List your project ideas and recruit other mentors
> > * Let us know at outreachy-admins at gnome.org
> <mailto:outreachy-admins at gnome.org> that your org is
> > participating
> > * Start spreading the word about your org's internships - no
> need to
> > wait for February 16
> >
> > We plan on having a twitter chat about Outreachy on Feb 16, to
> > spotlight the organizations that are participating, and
> allow orgs to
> > answer any questions people have. Participation in the chat is
> > optional, but if you do want to participate, being able to
> link to a
> > blog post that describes why you're passionate about your
> project
> > would help us promote your project.
> >
> > The updated resources for the upcoming round are:
> >
> > * https://wiki.gnome.org/Outreachy/2016/MayAugust
> >
> > A page with a timeline and participating organizations
> listing; if
> > you have funds secured you can add your organization there.
> >
> > * https://wiki.gnome.org/Outreachy/Admin/InfoForOrgs and
> > https://wiki.gnome.org/Outreachy/Admin/InfoForOrgs/Proposal
> >
> > These pages have motivation and information for sponsorship; you
> > can use and customize the text from the Proposal page to
> approach
> > companies about sponsorship (please do a quick check with Karen,
> > Sarah, and myself at outreachy-admins at gnome.org
> <mailto:outreachy-admins at gnome.org> alias first to make
> > sure we coordinate any efforts to approach the same company)
> >
> > * https://wiki.gnome.org/Outreachy/Admin/GettingStarted
> >
> > Please review this page when you are updating the landing
> page for
> > your organization and if your organization plans to
> participate in
> > Google Summer of Code
> >
> > * https://wiki.gnome.org/Outreachy#Contracts
> >
> > Please make all people who volunteer as mentors in your
> > organization aware that they will need to sign a contract
> similar
> > to this to be a mentor in the program. Interns cannot be
> paid until
> > their mentors sign the contract, so it is important that mentors
> > sign the contract as soon as the application system opens on Feb
> > 16.
> >
> > * https://wiki.gnome.org/Outreachy#Eligibility
> >
> > As we announced last round, we have expanded the Outreachy
> program
> > to include underrepresented people of color underrepresented in
> > tech in the U.S. Outreachy continues to be open
> internationally to
> > women (cis and trans), trans men, and genderqueer people.
> >
> > Google Summer of Code (GSoC)
> > https://developers.google.com/open-source/gsoc
> >
> > The applications for organizations to participate in GSoC
> will open
> > February 8 and will close at 7pm UTC on Friday, February 19.
> I highly
> > encourage organizations to apply for this program as it's a
> great
> > opportunity to engage students with your project and is
> generously
> > sponsored by Google. Please note that GSoC deadlines are
> set in stone
> > and be sure to work with participants and mentors to get
> things done
> > by these deadlines as your organization participates in GSoC.
> >
> > Outreachy was created in response to low participation of
> women in
> > GSoC, and we encourage women who are students and coders to
> apply for
> > both programs if the organization they are interested in is
> > participating in both. The dates for this round of Outreachy are
> > intentionally set to be similar to GSoC dates. Outreachy
> application
> > deadline is a couple days earlier to make sure that applicants
> > eligible for GSoC don't miss the GSoC deadline.
> >
> > Please contact Karen, Marina, and myself at
> outreachy-admins at gnome.org <mailto:outreachy-admins at gnome.org>
> > alias if you have any questions. We hope you can join in for
> this
> > round!
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Sarah Sharp
> >
> >
>
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