[Evergreen-catalogers] 700s under 600s
Oxford, Susan
soxford at ucn.ca
Thu May 12 09:43:03 EDT 2016
Thank you for the responses.
It’s been interesting to look at other catalogues and see how they are set up and in some cases the workaround solutions that have been created.
I have heard comments from people here that our catalogue has too much information to read before getting to the information people are seeking. My eye looks at the title, misses the 700s listed under the title, and goes down to the summary and subject headings. I realize students and faculty are looking at the title, reading the 700s under the title, maybe reading on to the rest of the record, or just leaving.
The solutions offered to me are great. I’m not a coder nor do I feel comfortable enough to work with scripts (if that’s the correct term) so I don’t feel confident enough to work with them. I would like to maybe work on helping to come up with ideas on what defaults should perhaps look like and operate.
Thanks again,
Susan
Susan Oxford, MLIS
Campus Librarian, Thompson
University College of the North
204-677-6408
From: Evergreen-catalogers [mailto:evergreen-catalogers-bounces at list.evergreen-ils.org] On Behalf Of Donald Butterworth
Sent: May-12-16 7:27 AM
To: Evergreen Community Catalogers
Subject: Re: [Evergreen-catalogers] 700s under 600s
All,
I too have a small laundry list of "out of the box" PAC display issues
* Alternate Title fields (740, 240, 246) are indexed, but don't appear on our PAC display.
* The "Immediate Source of Acquisitions" note field (541) does display, but it should be a staff only field. Really, it should not even appear on the public MARC display.
* We are part of a consortium and our institutions have electronic titles that are only available to them. When the $w and $9 subfields are added to the "Electronic Location and Access" field (856) to suppress visibility, it actually hides it from the catalogers in Staff PAC because we log on at the consortium level and not the institutional level. Not good.
* One thing that drives me crazy as a cataloger is being forced to scroll down to see what the subjects are on a bib record, which is nearly always the last entry at the very bottom of the screen. It's not good for researchers either, because those subjects are key access points that are used to point to additional research areas. In my opinion, there is way too much white space between the Title area and the copy/item area. Personally I want to see "record details" in this area.
I'm sure I could come up with a bunch more if I only had some spare time ;-)
Don
On Wed, May 11, 2016 at 4:46 PM, Elaine Hardy <ehardy at georgialibraries.org<mailto:ehardy at georgialibraries.org>> wrote:
I agree that changing the location of the 7xx fields in the default OPAC display is something we should discuss. There are other changes I would like to see to the default display such as removing the (added author) labels. This is especially odd looking for headings with a relator term or code.
I like having that long list of contributors in the drop down menu as Yamil has done. It might need to be a little more visible..... I also like calling them contributors rather than added authors -- covers a whole range of tasks.
Elaine
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On Wed, May 11, 2016 at 4:01 PM, Kathy Lussier <klussier at masslnc.org<mailto:klussier at masslnc.org>> wrote:
Hi Susan,
From my understanding of Yamil's response, the 700s don't display under the subjects because Berklee hasn't made that customization to its catalog. The customization Berklee made was to remove the 700s entirely from that string that displays under the title and to locate it in one of the collapsible sections near the bottom.
Looking quickly at Yamil's latest e-mail, it looks like a reasonable approach to do what you are asking to do. However, it isn't something I've tested. As with most catalog customizations, it's one of those things that will probably require some trial and error to get to display exactly as you like.
Feel free to let us know if you come across any trouble while trying it out!
Kathy
On 05/11/2016 03:52 PM, Oxford, Susan wrote:
Thanks, Yamil. I’m looking at a record from your library for Macbeth:
Giuseppe Verdi's Macbeth [videorecording]
https://catalog.berklee.edu/eg/opac/record/41447?qtype=author;query=Franz%20%20David;facet=subject%7Cname%5BMacbeth%20King%20of%20Scotland%2011th%20cent%5D
I don’t see the 700s under the title, which is nice. I can see the 700s in the MARC record. I don’t see the 700s under the 600s in the OPAC record although I would like to.
I’m wondering why your 700s aren’t visible in the OPAC record under the 600s?
Thanks,
Susan
Susan Oxford, MLIS
Campus Librarian, Thompson
University College of the North
204-677-6408<tel:204-677-6408>
From: Evergreen-catalogers [mailto:evergreen-catalogers-bounces at list.evergreen-ils.org] On Behalf Of Yamil Suarez
Sent: May-11-16 2:34 PM
To: Evergreen Community Catalogers
Subject: Re: [Evergreen-catalogers] 700s under 600s
First of all for Susan and others here, this situation reminds me that I have wanted to have the community consider changing the default behavior of EG so that 7xx author data is not displayed by default right below the title in the OPAC record view. My reason is that our library has many records that would end up with very long lists of 7xx fields showing up right below the title. Therefore a OPAC customization I always use is to display the 7xx author data lower down the record page in the OPAC. Just wondering what other's think.
Susan, I believe that Kathy's approach will remove the listing of authors (both 1xx and 7xx authors) from below the title and list them next to the subjects. This might work fine for you, though it would mean that no authors are listed right below the title.
A variation on Kathy's approach would be two create a copy of the "author.tt2" file with a different name, like "authors_1xx.tt2" with the changes I recommended earlier (that remove the 7xx data). Then rename the entry that says [%- INCLUDE "opac/parts/record/authors.tt2" %] near the top of the summary file to point to [%- INCLUDE "opac/parts/record/authors_1xx.tt2" %] so that your 1xx data still shows up right below the title.
Then just like Kathy said add [%- INCLUDE "opac/parts/record/authors.tt2" %] further below the summary.tt2 file below the [%- INCLUDE "opac/parts/record/subjects.tt2" %]
That way 1xx author data shows up right below the title, but the 1xx & 7xx author data will show up near the subjects. Though you might need to customize authors.tt2 a bit to add a visible label that says something like "Authors: " before the list of authors is displayed.
For example in authors.tt2 look for the line...
<div class='rdetail_authors_div'>
and add a label to it like this...
<div class='rdetail_authors_div'>Authors:
On my catalog I did something similar to the above, but I believe I copied and renamed "awards.tt2" file to "contributors.tt2" solely display my 7xx authors data in one of the "collapsible" sections near the bottom. To do that I had to add one line to "extras.tt2" which controls the order of the "collapsible" sections at the bottom, among other things.
Susan, I hope this helps a bit. Since we are getting pretty technical in terms of customizing the OPAC we might want to move the discussion to the general or the technical list. We can also continue on the IRC channel.
Also, Kathy or others please correct me if I have made any mistakes.
Good luck,
Yamil
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Berklee College of Music
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On Wed, May 11, 2016 at 12:17 PM, Oxford, Susan <soxford at ucn.ca<mailto:soxford at ucn.ca>> wrote:
Hello,
Would these solutions list the 700s under the 600s in the OPAC?
Thank you,
Susan
Susan Oxford, MLIS
Campus Librarian, Thompson
University College of the North
204-677-6408<tel:204-677-6408>
From: Evergreen-catalogers [mailto:evergreen-catalogers-bounces at list.evergreen-ils.org<mailto:evergreen-catalogers-bounces at list.evergreen-ils.org>] On Behalf Of Yamil Suarez
Sent: May-11-16 11:11 AM
To: Evergreen Community Catalogers
Subject: Re: [Evergreen-catalogers] 700s under 600s
Susan,
To remove the 7xx from the title I customize the templates/opac/parts/record/authors.tt2 file[1]
There is a section that looks like this that I then shorten....
authors = [
{
type => 'author',
label => l('Author'),
xpath => '//*[@tag="100"]|//*[@tag="110"]|//*[@tag="111"]'
}, {
type => 'added',
label => l('Added Author'),
xpath => '//*[@tag="700"]|//*[@tag="710"]|//*[@tag="711"]'
}, {
type => 'cast',
label => l('Cast'),
xpath => '//*[@tag="508"]'
}, {
type => 'notes',
label => l('Author Notes: '),
xpath => '' # Comes from added content...
}
];
Which I then shorten to this....
authors = [
{
type => 'author',
label => l('Author'),
xpath => '//*[@tag="100"]|//*[@tag="110"]|//*[@tag="111"]'
}, {
type => 'notes',
label => l('Author Notes: '),
xpath => '' # Comes from added content...
}
];
You can see in the code where it tries to grab 700 and 710 tags.
[1] For the record, the recommended practice is not to edit the authors.tt2 file in place. You should create a new folder with the templates you want to override in a new folder, but with the same path. My path ends up being something like templates_berklee/opac/parts/record/authors.tt2
Kathy's link explains this approach of creating a new folder for the templates you want to override, but you can follow up with me, the general or technology list .
http://docs.evergreen-ils.org/2.10/_designing_your_catalog.html#_configuring_and_customizing_the_public_interface
Good luck,
Yamil
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Yamil Suarez, MCS
Library Systems Administrator/Developer
Stan Getz Library
Berklee College of Music
1140 Boylston St
Boston, MA 02215
ysuarez at berklee.edu<mailto:ysuarez at berklee.edu>
617-747-2617<tel:617-747-2617>
On Wed, May 11, 2016 at 11:59 AM, Kathy Lussier <klussier at masslnc.org<mailto:klussier at masslnc.org>> wrote:
Hi Susan!
I don't know if you have access to edit your Template Toolkit files, but you could make this change by editing the file in parts/record/summary.tt2. There is a bit at towards the top of the file that looks like:
[%- INCLUDE "opac/parts/record/authors.tt2" %]
which is what places those entries under the title.
The bit towards the bottom that says:
[%- INCLUDE "opac/parts/record/subjects.tt2" %]
is what controls where the 600 fields display.
You
There is more information on making catalog customizations available at http://docs.evergreen-ils.org/2.10/_designing_your_catalog.html#_configuring_and_customizing_the_public_interface
I hope this helps!
Kathy
On 05/11/2016 11:33 AM, Oxford, Susan wrote:
Hello,
I don’t know if this has ever been addressed or not but:
How do we get the 700 fields to show in the OPAC listed under the 600 fields instead of under the title at the top?
Thank you,
Susan Oxford
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