[evergreen-outreach] proofing copy three

Thu Apr 12 08:13:48 EDT 2018

Rogan, you're a treasure.  That is all.  And, agreed, it's better to be a
verb than a noun, imo.  As far as the greens go, rock on.  I can see where
there'd be love.  I can also agree that qualitative arguments (though there
really isn't one here) should be settled via karaoke battles.  REALLY
contentious ones might require interpretive dance.  Good thing I try to
avoid contention whenever possible.

On Thu, Apr 12, 2018 at 8:07 AM, Rogan Hamby <rogan.hamby at gmail.com> wrote:

> 1.  Font issue should be fixed now thanks to xml editing.
> 2.  Technically not but for reasons that matter to no one.  Regardless,
> should look better now.
> 3.  Yeah, I wondered how that much color and brightness would look to
> folks.  It's an experiment. I've had other feedback that it's the favorite
> part of the report to some others.  So, I'm going to chalk that one up to a
> contentious matter of taste and leave as is.  We can have a debate at the
> conference where the loser has to sing karaoke if need be.  I'm also
> starting to think that all matters of dispute that are qualitative rather
> than quantitative should be settled via karaoke battles.
> 4.  I'm going to spare you my rant on how text box cloning _should_ work
> and visually center them with the common 'y' character as a vertical
> guide.  Let me know how it look in proof 4 when I send that out (shortly).
> 5.  Thank you.  There are some stray pixel issues but I don't think
> they'll be noticeable to anyone at scale when printed.  I enjoy spending
> some time when I can on those kinds of bits and pieces.
> 6. I thought it was cooler to be a verb than noun.  (joking aside, fixed)
> 7. Interesting note, since in the layout program you have all these border
> markers that you need for objects it makes it really hard to visually
> identify centers on small objects which is why some layout software give
> you relative object alignments to show you how the centers/edges align are
> when you select an active object.  Tragically that's not available here.
> Also I can't actually center it because of how it does overlapping objects
> of that size but I can do something else that will create the same effect
> (first line offset). Good catch, thank you.
>
> Nitpicking is exactly what is needed, so thank you for it.
>
> On Wed, Apr 11, 2018 at 3:14 PM, Ruth Frasur <director at hagerstownlibrary.
> org> wrote:
>
>> My comments are as follows, and with deep recognition that you've been
>> working a LOT and this makes me feel nit picky.
>> 1.  There seem to be a lot of fonts.  I wouldn't say it's weirdness, but
>> a lot.  Most notably, to my mind, are the two text areas on the last page.
>> My eye expected them to be what seems to be the standard san serif font
>> throughout, but it's not.
>> 2.  The logo on the back page seems like it's a little close on the left
>> hand side.
>> 3.  On page 9, there are essentially 6 colors ranging from green-blue to
>> fluorescent green.  That's a lot of green.  Grant, we're Evergreen.
>> 4.  The headers on pages 7 & 8 are off.  The text seems too close to the
>> horizontal edge.  On pg. 8, too close to the vertical edge.
>> 5.  The Kentucky collage on pg. 6 is awesome.
>> 6.  On the acknowledgements page, everyone else is a proofreader but I'm
>> proofreading.
>> 7.  On the center teal bar on the acknowledgements page, the white text
>> is off vertical center.
>>
>> Enough nit picking for me.  I didn't notice any glaring grammatical or
>> spelling errors.
>>
>> On Wed, Apr 11, 2018 at 2:54 PM, Rogan Hamby <rogan.hamby at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> OK, clearly I missed my self imposed deadline of 2 pm.  There was enough
>>> feedback that I couldn't get it all in plus the things I noticed.  But
>>> thanks to the wonders of modern technology and mobile hotspots on phones
>>> I've continued to plug away at it.
>>>
>>> All of this is relevant because with my laptop screen but without
>>> additional monitors so it's hard to jump between all the additional windows
>>> to track font changes and such but I _think_ I've gotten the fonts
>>> standardized.  Another pass will be needed.  If you still see font
>>> weirdness please don't hesitate to say something.  How Scribus handles
>>> fonts .... well, let's just say it's not intuitive.  I have unkind
>>> adjectives in mind but it is at least consistent so I can work around it
>>> even if it makes absolutely no sense why it's doing it in the first place.
>>> And I'm thinking the manual editing of the XML I did at the beginning may
>>> be needed again.  Anyway....
>>>
>>> I'm still finding some small layout tweaks.  You may notice them.  I
>>> haven't logged them as everyone else has been so kind to do.
>>>
>>> Uh..... I have a lot of thoughts but time is short and I don't remember
>>> most of them.  But I think all the changes are in.  I do however want to
>>> highlight something that has been driving me nuts and that Andrea
>>> mentioned: kerning.
>>>
>>> I think some of the text flows look ... not good.  Scribus does not have
>>> smart kerning like InDesign or Quark or ... other modern commercial
>>> software layout tools.  For the most part Scribus has been decent but when
>>> it fails it really fails.  We could just justify everything to both sides
>>> like a newspaper but that would look just as bad just different.  The thing
>>> about kerning is that it's time consuming to do manually and small text
>>> changes can make it all mute so I'm not going to tackle it until I feel
>>> sure text changes aren't incoming and even then I'm not sure I'll have time
>>> to really go through it all.
>>>
>>> That will be tomorrow.
>>>
>>>  Proofing copy 3 is attached.
>>>
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Library
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