[evergreen-outreach] proofing copy three
Kathy Lussier
klussier at masslnc.org
Thu Apr 12 09:43:46 EDT 2018
Hi,
> 3. Yeah, I wondered how that much color and brightness would look to
> folks. It's an experiment. I've had other feedback that it's the
> favorite part of the report to some others. So, I'm going to chalk
> that one up to a contentious matter of taste and leave as is. We can
> have a debate at the conference where the loser has to sing karaoke if
> need be. I'm also starting to think that all matters of dispute that
> are qualitative rather than quantitative should be settled via karaoke
> battles.
I'll admit to being the person who said they really like that page and
am happy to engage in debate. But I will NOT agree to doing karaoke if I
lose. I think we've done our bit to get out of singing karaoke for this
conference.
Kathy
On 04/12/2018 08:07 AM, Rogan Hamby wrote:
> 1. Font issue should be fixed now thanks to xml editing.
> 2. Technically not but for reasons that matter to no one. Regardless,
> should look better now.
> 3. Yeah, I wondered how that much color and brightness would look to
> folks. It's an experiment. I've had other feedback that it's the
> favorite part of the report to some others. So, I'm going to chalk
> that one up to a contentious matter of taste and leave as is. We can
> have a debate at the conference where the loser has to sing karaoke if
> need be. I'm also starting to think that all matters of dispute that
> are qualitative rather than quantitative should be settled via karaoke
> battles.
> 4. I'm going to spare you my rant on how text box cloning _should_
> work and visually center them with the common 'y' character as a
> vertical guide. Let me know how it look in proof 4 when I send that
> out (shortly).
> 5. Thank you. There are some stray pixel issues but I don't think
> they'll be noticeable to anyone at scale when printed. I enjoy
> spending some time when I can on those kinds of bits and pieces.
> 6. I thought it was cooler to be a verb than noun. (joking aside, fixed)
> 7. Interesting note, since in the layout program you have all these
> border markers that you need for objects it makes it really hard to
> visually identify centers on small objects which is why some layout
> software give you relative object alignments to show you how the
> centers/edges align are when you select an active object. Tragically
> that's not available here. Also I can't actually center it because of
> how it does overlapping objects of that size but I can do something
> else that will create the same effect (first line offset). Good catch,
> thank you.
>
> Nitpicking is exactly what is needed, so thank you for it.
>
> On Wed, Apr 11, 2018 at 3:14 PM, Ruth Frasur
> <director at hagerstownlibrary.org
> <mailto:director at hagerstownlibrary.org>> wrote:
>
> My comments are as follows, and with deep recognition that you've
> been working a LOT and this makes me feel nit picky.
> 1. There seem to be a lot of fonts. I wouldn't say it's
> weirdness, but a lot. Most notably, to my mind, are the two text
> areas on the last page. My eye expected them to be what seems to
> be the standard san serif font throughout, but it's not.
> 2. The logo on the back page seems like it's a little close on
> the left hand side.
> 3. On page 9, there are essentially 6 colors ranging from
> green-blue to fluorescent green. That's a lot of green. Grant,
> we're Evergreen.
> 4. The headers on pages 7 & 8 are off. The text seems too close
> to the horizontal edge. On pg. 8, too close to the vertical edge.
> 5. The Kentucky collage on pg. 6 is awesome.
> 6. On the acknowledgements page, everyone else is a proofreader
> but I'm proofreading.
> 7. On the center teal bar on the acknowledgements page, the white
> text is off vertical center.
>
> Enough nit picking for me. I didn't notice any glaring
> grammatical or spelling errors.
>
> On Wed, Apr 11, 2018 at 2:54 PM, Rogan Hamby
> <rogan.hamby at gmail.com <mailto:rogan.hamby at gmail.com>> wrote:
>
> OK, clearly I missed my self imposed deadline of 2 pm. There
> was enough feedback that I couldn't get it all in plus the
> things I noticed. But thanks to the wonders of modern
> technology and mobile hotspots on phones I've continued to
> plug away at it.
>
> All of this is relevant because with my laptop screen but
> without additional monitors so it's hard to jump between all
> the additional windows to track font changes and such but I
> _think_ I've gotten the fonts standardized. Another pass will
> be needed. If you still see font weirdness please don't
> hesitate to say something. How Scribus handles fonts ....
> well, let's just say it's not intuitive. I have unkind
> adjectives in mind but it is at least consistent so I can work
> around it even if it makes absolutely no sense why it's doing
> it in the first place. And I'm thinking the manual editing of
> the XML I did at the beginning may be needed again. Anyway....
>
> I'm still finding some small layout tweaks. You may notice
> them. I haven't logged them as everyone else has been so kind
> to do.
>
> Uh..... I have a lot of thoughts but time is short and I don't
> remember most of them. But I think all the changes are in. I
> do however want to highlight something that has been driving
> me nuts and that Andrea mentioned: kerning.
>
> I think some of the text flows look ... not good. Scribus
> does not have smart kerning like InDesign or Quark or ...
> other modern commercial software layout tools. For the most
> part Scribus has been decent but when it fails it really
> fails. We could just justify everything to both sides like a
> newspaper but that would look just as bad just different. The
> thing about kerning is that it's time consuming to do manually
> and small text changes can make it all mute so I'm not going
> to tackle it until I feel sure text changes aren't incoming
> and even then I'm not sure I'll have time to really go through
> it all.
>
> That will be tomorrow.
>
> Proofing copy 3 is attached.
>
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