[OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Permissions wrong?

Dan Wells dbw2 at calvin.edu
Thu Jan 28 09:54:18 EST 2010

Hello all,

I fully agree that "depth" as it is used in the permission setup is not a clear word choice.  It gives the impression of working down, that is, the "deeper" you set it, the greater your permissions, and this is not the case.  If it is still possible and not horribly difficult to change this, I think "breadth" is a better word choice and easier to understand, as it seems clear that a permission breadth of 'Consortium' provides greater abilities than a breadth of 'Library', or something similar.

My two cents,

Daniel Wells, Library Programmer Analyst dbw2 at calvin.edu
Hekman Library at Calvin College

>>> On 1/26/2010 at  5:23 PM, Victoria Bush <vbush at ilstu.edu> wrote:
> Thanks, Jason. That did the trick! 
> A few web pages at the open-ils wiki have some information, but they don't 
> seem to explain the intricacies of the various permission settings. 
> Example: 
> http://evergreen-ils.org/dokuwiki/doku.php?id=evergreen-admin:policies:user 
> groups&s[]=permissions
> doesn't explain what is meant by "depth" (am I setting the highest depth or 
> lowest depth?), how group_application.user differs from 
> group_application.user.patron (using Jason's two settings below), etc. 
> Example: 
> http://evergreen-ils.org/dokuwiki/doku.php?id=evergreen-user:permission_lis 
> t&s[]=permissions
> does explain in short descriptors the various permissions, but doesn't give 
> what the defaults are--i.e. which class has that setting. 
> Sorry, I know the documentation group is working on a lot of stuff right 
> now; but I'm always a fan of more information. 
> -Vicki
> On Jan 26, 2010, at 3:57 PM, Jason Etheridge wrote:
>> On Tue, Jan 26, 2010 at 4:51 PM, Victoria Bush <vbush at ilstu.edu> wrote:
>>> We're still running Evergreen 1.4, and for some reason the circulators group 
> is unable to set the profile group when a new patron is registered. I've 
> tried to add the appropriate permissions, but I could have sworn this was 
> working when the databases were first set up.
>>> What permission do I need to set? CREATE_USER doesn't seem to cut it.
>> Hi Victoria,
>> Each permission/profile group has a potential "editing" permission
>> associated with it, that staff would need in addition to CREATE_USER.
>> So given a stock installation without a lot of customization, you may
>> want to try the perms: group_application.user and
>> group_application.user.patron
>> -- 
>> Jason Etheridge
>> | VP, Tactical Development
>> | Equinox Software, Inc. / The Evergreen Experts
>> | phone:  1-877-OPEN-ILS (673-6457)
>> | email:  jason at esilibrary.com 
>> | web:  http://www.esilibrary.com 
>> Please join us for the Evergreen 2010 International Conference!
>> It is being held April 20 - 23, 2010 at the Amway Grand Hotel and
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>> http://www.evergreen2010.org/ 
> --
> Victoria Bush
> Opscan Evaluation Manager
> Center for Teaching, Learning & Technology
> vbush at ilstu.edu

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