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argument for splitting out the Web bits as a separate package as well;

for a multi-server install, you probably won't want to install the Web

on each server.

Ah, yes, the web bits would be a good one to split off, as that

removes quite a few dependencies if they're not needed.



Are you aiming at getting the packages accepted into the official

distro repositories? It would be great to document this understanding

for the future (particularly if there are clear TODOs to get to the

point of having the packages accepted by the distros). Also, let us

know if there are things that we can do that would reduce the work

required to build packages.

Getting the packages officially accepted is the best outcome, but I

don't know how doable it is. I will defineitely start talking to the

Debian/Fedora people over the next few weeks to see what we can do in

this direction.



I'm sure that server space can be arranged - we can poke the server

admins on #evergreen to lobby for an account for you on one of the

machines.

Thanks, that's sorted now. I've uploaded an iso[4]. The linux account

is opensrf/opensrf and the evergreen account is admin/livecd. I've

been mostly testing it using unetbootin[5] to load it onto a usb

stick. Ultimately, I hope for it to fit onto a single CD, but atm I

still have another 18MB to shave off before it does.



[4] http://lupin.georgialibraries.org/~bjwebb/evergreen-ils-live-0.0.9.iso<=
http://lupin.georgialibraries.org/%7Ebjwebb/evergreen-ils-live-0.0.9.iso>

[5] http://unetbootin.sourceforge.net/



Cheers,

Ben


On 8/17/2011 9:42 PM, Jesse Ephraim wrote:
Someone asked this a couple of years ago:


"I've noticed that some other open source systems (particularly the various=
 flavors of Asterisk) have released a self-install ISO file for some of the=
ir systems -- similar to the VMWare file, but for an install on a blank mac=
hine.  Has anyone on this list created such a thing?"

Has anyone created one in the interim?

Jesse Ephraim

Director, Roanoke Public Library
308 S. Walnut
Roanoke, Texas 76262
(817) 491-2691
jephraim at roanoketexas.com<mailto:jephraim at roanoketexas.com>

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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;font-family:&quot;Ar=
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;font-family:&quot;Ar=
ial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;font-family:&quot;Ar=
ial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;
color:black">(817) 491-2691<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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color:black">jephraim at roanoketexas.com<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, August 17, 2011 11:02 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Evergreen Discussion Group<br>
<b>Cc:</b> Jesse Ephraim<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] .iso file?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-bottom:12.0pt">Hi Jesse,<br>
<br>
This was sent to the list in July (the link to the .iso file is in the last=
 section of the e-mail):<o:p></o:p></p>
<div>
<pre>On 14 July 2011 14:57, Dan Scott <a href=3D"mailto:dan at coffeecode.net"=
>&lt;dan at coffeecode.net&gt;</a> wrote:<o:p></o:p></pre>
<blockquote style=3D"margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt">
<pre>&nbsp;Question - are the packages visible yet? Evergreen<o:p></o:p></p=
re>
<pre>at <a href=3D"https://build.opensuse.org/package/show?package=3Devergr=
een&amp;project=3Dhome%3Abjwebb%3Aevergreen">https://build.opensuse.org/pac=
kage/show?package=3Devergreen&amp;project=3Dhome%3Abjwebb%3Aevergreen</a> a=
nd OpenSRF at ?<o:p></o:p></pre>
</blockquote>
<pre>The build service site is a little labyrinth-like, to see the actual<o=
:p></o:p></pre>
<pre>binary packages you have to navigate to repositories, choose one, and<=
o:p></o:p></pre>
<pre>then Go to download repository. For example Debian 6.0[1] and Fedora<o=
:p></o:p></pre>
<pre>15[2]. These are the only distributions that are currently supported -=
<o:p></o:p></pre>
<pre>what is breaking the others is mostly non-existent or out of date<o:p>=
</o:p></pre>
<pre>dependencies. I've also been building the packages on an Ubuntu PPA[3]=
<o:p></o:p></pre>
<pre>but I've not tested the install on ubuntu yet.<o:p></o:p></pre>
<pre><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></pre>
<pre>[1] <a href=3D"http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/home:/bjwebb:=
/evergreen/Debian_6.0/">http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/home:/bjw=
ebb:/evergreen/Debian_6.0/</a><o:p></o:p></pre>
<pre>[2] <a href=3D"http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/home:/bjwebb:=
/evergreen/Fedora_15/">http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/home:/bjwe=
bb:/evergreen/Fedora_15/</a><o:p></o:p></pre>
<pre>[3] <a href=3D"https://launchpad.net/%7Ebjwebb67-googlemail/&#43;archi=
ve/evergreen">https://launchpad.net/~bjwebb67-googlemail/&#43;archive/everg=
reen</a><o:p></o:p></pre>
<pre><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></pre>
<blockquote style=3D"margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt">
<pre>From a pure OpenSRF and Evergreen perspective, I could see a strong<o:=
p></o:p></pre>
<pre>argument for splitting out the Web bits as a separate package as well;=
<o:p></o:p></pre>
<pre>for a multi-server install, you probably won't want to install the Web=
<o:p></o:p></pre>
<pre>on each server.<o:p></o:p></pre>
</blockquote>
<pre>Ah, yes, the web bits would be a good one to split off, as that<o:p></=
o:p></pre>
<pre>removes quite a few dependencies if they're not needed.<o:p></o:p></pr=
e>
<pre><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></pre>
<blockquote style=3D"margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt">
<pre>Are you aiming at getting the packages accepted into the official<o:p>=
</o:p></pre>
<pre>distro repositories? It would be great to document this understanding<=
o:p></o:p></pre>
<pre>for the future (particularly if there are clear TODOs to get to the<o:=
p></o:p></pre>
<pre>point of having the packages accepted by the distros). Also, let us<o:=
p></o:p></pre>
<pre>know if there are things that we can do that would reduce the work<o:p=
></o:p></pre>
<pre>required to build packages.<o:p></o:p></pre>
</blockquote>
<pre>Getting the packages officially accepted is the best outcome, but I<o:=
p></o:p></pre>
<pre>don't know how doable it is. I will defineitely start talking to the<o=
:p></o:p></pre>
<pre>Debian/Fedora people over the next few weeks to see what we can do in<=
o:p></o:p></pre>
<pre>this direction.<o:p></o:p></pre>
<pre><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></pre>
<blockquote style=3D"margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt">
<pre>I'm sure that server space can be arranged - we can poke the server<o:=
p></o:p></pre>
<pre>admins on #evergreen to lobby for an account for you on one of the<o:p=
></o:p></pre>
<pre>machines.<o:p></o:p></pre>
</blockquote>
<pre>Thanks, that's sorted now. I've uploaded an iso[4]. The linux account<=
o:p></o:p></pre>
<pre>is opensrf/opensrf and the evergreen account is admin/livecd. I've<o:p=
></o:p></pre>
<pre>been mostly testing it using unetbootin[5] to load it onto a usb<o:p><=
/o:p></pre>
<pre>stick. Ultimately, I hope for it to fit onto a single CD, but atm I<o:=
p></o:p></pre>
<pre>still have another 18MB to shave off before it does.<o:p></o:p></pre>
<pre><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></pre>
<pre>[4] <a href=3D"http://lupin.georgialibraries.org/%7Ebjwebb/evergreen-i=
ls-live-0.0.9.iso">http://lupin.georgialibraries.org/~bjwebb/evergreen-ils-=
live-0.0.9.iso</a><o:p></o:p></pre>
<pre>[5] <a href=3D"http://unetbootin.sourceforge.net/">http://unetbootin.s=
ourceforge.net/</a><o:p></o:p></pre>
<pre><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></pre>
<pre>Cheers,<o:p></o:p></pre>
<pre>Ben<o:p></o:p></pre>
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<br>
On 8/17/2011 9:42 PM, Jesse Ephraim wrote: <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;s=
ans-serif&quot;">Someone asked this a couple of years ago:</span><o:p></o:p=
></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;s=
ans-serif&quot;">&nbsp;</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<pre><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">&=
#8220;</span>I've noticed that some other open source systems (particularly=
 the various flavors of Asterisk) have released a self-install ISO file for=
 some of their systems -- similar to the VMWare file, but for an install on=
 a blank machine.&nbsp; Has anyone on this list created such a thing?<span =
style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">&#8221;</spa=
n><o:p></o:p></pre>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;s=
ans-serif&quot;">&nbsp;</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;s=
ans-serif&quot;">Has anyone created one in the interim?&nbsp;
</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;s=
ans-serif&quot;">&nbsp;</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;s=
ans-serif&quot;">Jesse Ephraim</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;s=
ans-serif&quot;">&nbsp;</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;s=
ans-serif&quot;">Director, Roanoke Public Library</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;s=
ans-serif&quot;">308 S. Walnut</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;s=
ans-serif&quot;">Roanoke, Texas 76262</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;s=
ans-serif&quot;">(817) 491-2691</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;s=
ans-serif&quot;"><a href=3D"mailto:jephraim at roanoketexas.com">jephraim at roan=
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