[OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Help for a tiny library?

[Mark Ehle]

Ben did say he was decently tech savvy and asked for a way to run Evergreen
on a pc. VirtualBox fits the bill.

On Sun, Jan 18, 2015 at 12:08 PM, McCanna, Terran <
tmccanna at georgialibraries.org> wrote:

> Regardless of whether it's feasible in a Windows VM environment or not, I
> really think that Evergreen is too complicated to set up and maintain for
> someone who doesn't have a strong skillset in system administration. A
> hosted ILS would be a better option, but a lot of tiny libraries can't
> afford that either.
>
> Personally, if I were in Ben's position, I would investigate some of the
> library automation system offerings that are designed specifically for
> small libraries. Does anyone have any experience with Surpass? I haven't
> used it, but it looks like it was designed for tiny libraries (less than
> 5000 items) and has a standalone license option for running on a single
> non-networked PC: http://www.surpasssoftware.com/surpass-sl.html.
>
>
> Terran McCanna
> PINES Program Manager
> Georgia Public Library Service
> 1800 Century Place, Suite 150
> Atlanta, GA 30345
> 404-235-7138
> tmccanna at georgialibraries.org
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Mark Ehle" <markehle at gmail.com>
> To: "Evergreen Discussion Group" <
> open-ils-general at list.georgialibraries.org>
> Sent: Sunday, January 18, 2015 11:26:53 AM
> Subject: Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Help for a tiny library?
>
> We ran everything in VirtualBox for a long time. Is it the PC hardware you
> object to? Or just VM's in general.
>
> On Sun, Jan 18, 2015 at 11:24 AM, Mark Ehle <markehle at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > When you have quad-core PC's with 8gb of ram, the difference is not that
> > much. I've run production VM's on my PC in a pinch and our staff never
> > knew.
> >
> > What do you suggest Ben does?
> >
> >
> > On Sun, Jan 18, 2015 at 11:12 AM, Rogan Hamby <rogan.hamby at yclibrary.net
> >
> > wrote:
> >
> >> Hi Mark,
> >>
> >> There is a big difference between running a production system on a
> >> desktop VM and playing with it.  Running Evergreen in Virtual Box is
> common
> >> for developers, documenters, etc....
> >>
> >> And it's important for those who don't have a systems background that a
> >> VM in a server environment and throwing up a VM on a desktop with
> limited
> >> resources are very different things.
> >>
> >> On Sun, Jan 18, 2015 at 11:00 AM, Mark Ehle <markehle at gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>> Not at all dubious, Rogan. We run Sirsi Symphony as a VM and have been
> >>> for years. We pretty much don't run our servers on anything else *but*
> >>> VM's. It's just how things are done now. I've run Evergreen in Virtual
> Box
> >>> (totally free) on my PC to play with it and it works just fine. Given a
> >>> decent enough PC,mainly enough memory, I'm sure you could run
> Evergreen on
> >>> a VM for a few clients for a small library.
> >>>
> >>> On Sun, Jan 18, 2015 at 10:49 AM, Rogan Hamby <
> rogan.hamby at yclibrary.net
> >>> > wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> Hi Ben,
> >>>>
> >>>> This was alluded to but to be clear, Evergreen isn't Windows software.
> >>>> Evergreen was built to run on Linux and is commonly run on Debian
> though I
> >>>> know it's used successfully on other distributions as well.
> Honestly, as
> >>>> much as I love to spread the love of Evergreen from what I can infer
> from
> >>>> your post I don't think this would be the right direction for you.
> >>>>
> >>>> Running a production system on a VM is dubious though possible but
> then
> >>>> connecting clients, doing the configuration, etc... these are going to
> >>>> require a big investment of time and energy on the part of staff.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> On Sat, Jan 17, 2015 at 6:25 PM, Ben T. <t.ben38 at gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> Hello All,
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I volunteer for a tiny library that is growing.  At this point we're
> >>>>> looking for a way to manage our check-outs/returns some way more
> efficient
> >>>>> than paper and pencil.  Evergreen seems like it could be a good
> solution
> >>>>> for us, however we are not able to afford a server at this point nor
> a
> >>>>> subscription (we basically have no money).  Is there any way
> (hopefully a
> >>>>> simple one) to run Evergreen just on a single Windows (7) machine,
> keeping
> >>>>> the catalog and patron information locally?
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Sincerely,
> >>>>> Ben
> >>>>> Librarian Volunteer
> >>>>> Kendall Clawson Library
> >>>>>
> >>>>> p.s. I am decently tech savvy, but not VERY tech savvy.  I won't be
> >>>>> able to do any major amount of coding on my own.
> >>>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> --
> >>>>
> >>>> Rogan Hamby, MLS, CCNP, MIA
> >>>> Managers Headquarters Library and Reference Services,
> >>>> York County Library System
> >>>>
> >>>> “You can never get a cup of tea large enough or a book long enough to
> >>>> suit me.”
> >>>> ― C.S. Lewis <http://www.goodreads.com/author/show/1069006.C_S_Lewis>
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >>
> >> Rogan Hamby, MLS, CCNP, MIA
> >> Managers Headquarters Library and Reference Services,
> >> York County Library System
> >>
> >> “You can never get a cup of tea large enough or a book long enough to
> >> suit me.”
> >> ― C.S. Lewis <http://www.goodreads.com/author/show/1069006.C_S_Lewis>
> >>
> >
> >
>
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