[Evergreen-catalogers] Multilingual searching in the OPAC

Wed Mar 20 19:26:54 EDT 2019

Hi Janet,

Very true.  For what it's worth, we've been linking to those searches from
our Web site to streamline the process for our patrons.  For example, check
out the link in the "Bilingual Books" box on this page:
http://library.linnbenton.edu/spanish

 -Jane

On Wed, Mar 20, 2019 at 3:34 PM Janet Schrader <jschrader at cwmars.org> wrote:

> Hi Jane,
>
> Thanks for the clarification. I thought the searches had to use the
> boolean search strings and was hoping that wasn't true. I thought the
> development would put language as a choice in the advanced search drop-down
> so that patrons could construct searches that way.  Doing that would allow
> users to enter titles and/or authors or subjects to find bilingual or
> multilingual works. For example a teacher looking for bilingual Chinese and
> English juvenile fiction.
>
>
>
> Janet
>
>
> Janet Schrader
>
> Bibliographic Services Supervisor | CW MARS
>
> 67 Millbrook Street, Suite 201, Worcester, MA 01606
>
> P: 508-755-3323 x 325 | F: 508-757-7801
>
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>
>
>
> On Wed, Mar 20, 2019 at 5:26 PM Jane Sandberg <sandbej at linnbenton.edu>
> wrote:
>
>> Thanks for your interest in multilingual search, Janet!
>>
>> Unfortunately, the UI on the advanced search screen isn't great.  I agree
>> that more patrons will be interested in a boolean AND for that field than a
>> boolean OR.  If you know the item_lang(spa)-style syntax, it works really
>> well, but that seems like a lot to ask of our patrons!  Maybe there should
>> be a launchpad bug to improve the user experience there.
>>
>> Also, for what it's worth, we found that all the default subfields are a
>> little over generous.  We changed the item_lang record attribute to only
>> grab from the Lang fixed field, 041$a, 041$d, and 041$e.
>>
>> Also, here's the announcement that I sent to the catalogers in our
>> consortium:
>>
>> You can now search for bilingual books in the catalog!  For example, here
>> is a list of all the books in LBCC's catalog that
>> contain both English and Portuguese content:
>>
>> https://libcat.linnbenton.edu/eg/opac/results?query=item_lang%28por%29+%26%26+item_lang%28eng%29&qtype=keyword&fi%3Asearch_format=book&locg=7&detail_record_view=1
>>
>> Previously, Evergreen thought that every book was in one -- and only
>> one -- language.  You could only search for bilingual materials if you
>> did some really special cataloging work (for example, LBCC has been
>> manually putting notes in all the records for our multilingual
>> materials).  Now, you should be able to pull in records, and Evergreen
>> will know *all* the languages that the item is in without any special
>> cataloging interventions.
>>
>> Using this search is a little weird, you have to express the languages
>> that you're interested in using strings like so: item_lang(eng)
>> item_lang(spa) -- you can string these together until you have the
>> exact language combo you're looking for, and then hit search.
>>
>> Hope this helps!
>>
>>   -Jane
>>
>> On Wed, Mar 20, 2019 at 2:07 PM Andrea Buntz Neiman <
>> abneiman at equinoxinitiative.org> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Janet --
>>>
>>> I'm on my way out the door but here's the official docs Equinox wrote to
>>> accompany this; hope it helps!
>>>
>>> http://docs.evergreen-ils.org/3.1/_multilingual_search_in_evergreen.html
>>>
>>> ABN
>>>
>>> On Wed, Mar 20, 2019 at 5:04 PM Janet Schrader <jschrader at cwmars.org>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi Everyone,
>>>>
>>>> I was asked to test the multilingual searching on our training server,
>>>> 3.2.4. I see this is a new feature and there's a bug LP# 1733695. I read
>>>> the specs for the development, but am not getting what it is supposed to
>>>> do. I can do a search for multiple languages by using the CTRL key to
>>>> highlight more than one choice. This is a boolean OR search. Is the
>>>> multilingual search supposed to find records with both languages such as
>>>> bilingual texts?
>>>>
>>>> I know I am searching the languages in the 041 field because doing a
>>>> search for *black panther boseman* limited to French brings up the
>>>> English language DVD that is also dubbed and subtitled in French. If I hold
>>>> down the CTRL key and choose French and Chinese I still get the same two
>>>> records as we don't have this DVD dubbed or subtitles in Chinese, so the
>>>> boolean search is French OR Chinese.
>>>>
>>>> I think I'm missing something obvious but don't know what.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Janet
>>>>
>>>> PS: At least it isn't those double vision subject headings. 🙂
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Janet Schrader
>>>>
>>>> Bibliographic Services Supervisor | CW MARS
>>>>
>>>> 67 Millbrook Street, Suite 201, Worcester, MA 01606
>>>>
>>>> P: 508-755-3323 x 325 | F: 508-757-7801
>>>>
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